GTS 4.0 SPASM OR PASM?
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Yes, if I was ordering a coupe, it would be the GT4. I'm curious why someone would pick a GTS Cayman over a GT4 -- maybe the wing? The only reason I'm going with Boxster 4.0 vs Spyder is the power-top.
SPASM and probably LWBS for 95% back-roads fun drives. My concern is that the Spyder/GT4 are already too compliant, judging from some of the comments.
SPASM and probably LWBS for 95% back-roads fun drives. My concern is that the Spyder/GT4 are already too compliant, judging from some of the comments.
the gt4 suspension is borrowed from the gt3. It’s sublime. I don’t know why anyone would say it’s too compliant unless they wanted a dedicated track car. But also, the gt4 suspension is fully adjustable like the gt3. So .. maybe they’re just doing it wrong ?
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Slightly concerned by the posts in this thread preferring a higher, softer, more compliant car. Am I the only one considering a Boxster 4.0 for (strictly, 95%) back-roads carving and almost no daily utility/duty? Has consensus delegated (strictly) back-roads carving to the Spyder and daily duty to the GTS 4.0?
but there’s nothing wrong with the gts for road carving. it’ll require a little more of the driver to go as fast which ... is not a bad thing at all.
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If money were no object, why wouldn’t you choose the Spyder for that ? It also has the gt3 front suspension, so it’s a big step up from the Boxster.
but there’s nothing wrong with the gts for road carving. it’ll require a little more of the driver to go as fast which ... is not a bad thing at all.
but there’s nothing wrong with the gts for road carving. it’ll require a little more of the driver to go as fast which ... is not a bad thing at all.
Btw, for everyone getting a GTS out of height/clearance concerns: the gt4/Spyder (coilover) suspension is height adjustable. Personally, if I was getting a coupe, I would see no reason to pick a GTS over the GT4.
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If you are wanting the higher setup for a more compliant ride then why not save the $'s and get a 718S instead? Its going to be 90% of what the GTS is just as the GTS is 90% of what the Spyder/GT4 is.
Its all a matter of preference at the end of the day. One of the reasons why I'm ordering a GTS is because I'm building it to my spec, not having to compromise by buying a used one that is close but doesnt have all the bits I wanted. Its the Goldilocks moment. This will be my 5th Porsche and very likely the only 1 I will buy new. I'm sure I'm not alone in that statement!
Its all a matter of preference at the end of the day. One of the reasons why I'm ordering a GTS is because I'm building it to my spec, not having to compromise by buying a used one that is close but doesnt have all the bits I wanted. Its the Goldilocks moment. This will be my 5th Porsche and very likely the only 1 I will buy new. I'm sure I'm not alone in that statement!
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If you are wanting the higher setup for a more compliant ride then why not save the $'s and get a 718S instead? Its going to be 90% of what the GTS is just as the GTS is 90% of what the Spyder/GT4 is.
Its all a matter of preference at the end of the day. One of the reasons why I'm ordering a GTS is because I'm building it to my spec, not having to compromise by buying a used one that is close but doesnt have all the bits I wanted. Its the Goldilocks moment. This will be my 5th Porsche and very likely the only 1 I will buy new. I'm sure I'm not alone in that statement!
Its all a matter of preference at the end of the day. One of the reasons why I'm ordering a GTS is because I'm building it to my spec, not having to compromise by buying a used one that is close but doesnt have all the bits I wanted. Its the Goldilocks moment. This will be my 5th Porsche and very likely the only 1 I will buy new. I'm sure I'm not alone in that statement!
If someone wants a softer cruiser for steep underground car parks and driveways, winter snow, and light off roading, they can get it with the factory lift kit. More power to them.
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- A wider selection of exterior colours
- A wider selection of wheels and wheel colours
- More interior options, including the ability to avoid Race-Tex/alcantara/ultrasuede altogether
- No rear wing
- Additional steering wheel options, including multi-function
- Two zone climate, seat heating and carplay included
- Smaller brakes (more wheel choices, including my existing 18" winter wheels)
- Narrower, less expensive tires
- About $20 grand
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To each his/her own. For me, the reasons to pick a GTS over a GT4 include:
- A wider selection of exterior colours
- A wider selection of wheels and wheel colours
- More interior options, including the ability to avoid Race-Tex/alcantara/ultrasuede altogether
- No rear wing
- Additional steering wheel options, including multi-function
- Two zone climate, seat heating and carplay included
- Smaller brakes (more wheel choices, including my existing 18" winter wheels)
- Narrower, less expensive tires
- About $20 grand
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I have a Cayman GTS 4.0 on order with PASM. I currently own a GT3 Touring, and I need to use the FAL every time I leave my neighborhood due to dips in the road for drainage. I previously owned a 981 Cayman S with the sport suspension, and I had to slow to less than a walking pace to go through those dips. This got old very quickly! The GTS and the GT4/Spyder are not available with FAL, so for me, I am looking for as much ground clearance as possible. In addition, I believe that the PASM will provide more ride comfort and better tire contact on rough roads, as will as reducing the chance of tire and wheel damage. My GT3 doesn't respond well to our terrible roads in Sonoma, and I believe that the softer (and higher) of the 2 choices on the Cayman will be better for everyday use, and still provide great handling. While I haven't driven either variant, I have seen a few videos that mention that the PASM doesn't give up too much to the sport PASM, even on the track.
I hope this helps with your decision.
I hope this helps with your decision.
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Same with me on the Spyder vs GTS...the Spyder I would build is only about $4k more than my GTS. And I agree with the previous reasons as to the GTS over the Spyder. For me like others it comes down to options and power top, especially since it will be my daily.
I am starting to rethink the 20mm SPASM vs 10mm PASM. My current order (not locked) is 20mm. My reasoning on 20mm is that I have a feeling I won't really notice a difference between the two so I might as well go 20mm...but I could apply that same logic to going 10mm.
I am starting to rethink the 20mm SPASM vs 10mm PASM. My current order (not locked) is 20mm. My reasoning on 20mm is that I have a feeling I won't really notice a difference between the two so I might as well go 20mm...but I could apply that same logic to going 10mm.
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Don't forget that there's an aftermarket FAL available: https://designsbyjacob.com/products/...-axle-lift-kit
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thank you for mentioning the aftermarket FAL option. This certainly could make ownership of a GT more palatable. However, since the GTS has the -10 mm option, I should point out that the front axle lift does not solve every problem. in my GT three with FAL I have no problems with driveways, dips etc., but it is no help when you’re coming around a corner at 60 miles an hour and see a bunch of 4 inch rocks in the middle of the road. this is exactly what happened to me in my 981 Cayman S, and the end result was two new tires .