How rare are these cars?
#76
Some more stats: There have been 521 718 Spyders produced for USA and Canada so far for model year 2020. 140 for Canada, and 381 for USA, between VINs WP0CC2A80LS240100 and WP0CC2A82LS240664. This excludes pre-production and show cars. Not sure if there will be any more 2020s, or if upcoming builds are all 2021 now.
Exterior colours:
Exterior colours:
- 52 White
- 50 Black
- 29 Guards Red
- 10 Racing Yellow
- 67 Carrara White
- 68 Gentian Blue
- 150 GT Silver
- 30 Miami Blue
- 58 Chalk
- 7 Unknown
- 44 Standard
- 21 Black Leather/Alcantara (no contrast stitching)
- 119 Black Leather/Alcantara with Silver Stitching
- 99 Black Leather/Alcantara with Red Stitching
- 56 Black Leather/Alcantara with Yellow Stitching
- 12 Black Leather/Alcantara with Custom Stitching or CXX Interior
- 163 Spyder Classic (Bordeaux Red Leather and Black Alcantara)
- 7 Unknown
- 376 Iron
- 138 PCCB
- 7 Unknown
- 101 2-way Sport Seats Plus
- 251 18-way Sport Seats Plus
- 162 Light Weight Carbon Bucket Seats
- 7 Unknown
#77
Just signed up for VIN Analytics and my GT4 is 115/127; picked up my GT4 in mid July, but was on one of the first few boats out of Emden after the port re-opened in June.
My local dealer has a Guards Red GT4 for sale at the moment (I believe the person who ordered ended up backing out) and definitely arrived at the dealer after mine arrived, but is reporting a sequence of 107/127 as the last few digits of the VIN are lower than mine.
Despite a commission # >4,000 higher than mine, it has an earlier production month and arrived much later than my GT4. I would have thought they would be constructing these cars based on commission number with some variation within a hundred or so, and would have expected this GR GT4 arriving sooner than mine if the sequencing is correct.
I wonder how many are still stuck at port, it would be interesting to see the build timeline sheet on this car to see if it has been sitting at port, possibly because the dealer indicated it is now a stock car and not a customer car once they backed out.
EDIT: Just noticed my dealer also has a GT Silver GT4 for sale that is built in Stuttgart and not in Osnabruck. The sequencing indicates it's 60/127 despite having a production week in July. Sequencing looks to be based on the last three digits only, however the total does take into account both Osnabruck and Stuttgart built GT4s.
My local dealer has a Guards Red GT4 for sale at the moment (I believe the person who ordered ended up backing out) and definitely arrived at the dealer after mine arrived, but is reporting a sequence of 107/127 as the last few digits of the VIN are lower than mine.
Despite a commission # >4,000 higher than mine, it has an earlier production month and arrived much later than my GT4. I would have thought they would be constructing these cars based on commission number with some variation within a hundred or so, and would have expected this GR GT4 arriving sooner than mine if the sequencing is correct.
I wonder how many are still stuck at port, it would be interesting to see the build timeline sheet on this car to see if it has been sitting at port, possibly because the dealer indicated it is now a stock car and not a customer car once they backed out.
EDIT: Just noticed my dealer also has a GT Silver GT4 for sale that is built in Stuttgart and not in Osnabruck. The sequencing indicates it's 60/127 despite having a production week in July. Sequencing looks to be based on the last three digits only, however the total does take into account both Osnabruck and Stuttgart built GT4s.
Last edited by Illusive991; 09-14-2020 at 12:44 PM. Reason: More Information
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#79
More than 1 out of every 4 carrying PCCBs.... surprising stat. The 44 "standard" interiors make me sad when there are such awesome interior options here. Also wouldn't want to sell a used car with the standard interior.
#80
I used to think that full leather is a must in any $100k car but now I see nothing wrong with a tasteful and thoughtful build with a standard interior. The newer standard interiors are actually quite nice.
#81
Final numbers for model year 2020 Spyders are 387 cars for USA, 140 for Canada, and 38 for other regions with US-like vehicle regulations (such as Puerto Rico and Saudi Arabia). The final model year 2020 Spyders were completed over the last week.
Spreadsheet link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LW3...ew?usp=sharing
Spreadsheet link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LW3...ew?usp=sharing
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#82
Final numbers for model year 2020 Spyders are 387 cars for USA, 140 for Canada, and 38 for other regions with US-like vehicle regulations (such as Puerto Rico and Saudi Arabia). Spreadsheet of all the VINs and some of their specs is attached. The final model year 2020 Spyders were completed over the last week.
#83
Final numbers for model year 2020 Spyders are 387 cars for USA, 140 for Canada, and 38 for other regions with US-like vehicle regulations (such as Puerto Rico and Saudi Arabia). The final model year 2020 Spyders were completed over the last week.
Spreadsheet link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LW3...ew?usp=sharing
Spreadsheet link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LW3...ew?usp=sharing
Last edited by 2020Spyder; 09-20-2020 at 01:26 AM.
#84
What I see in the US based on wizee's great work is:
Colors
GT Silver 112, or 28.9%
Gentian Blue 53, or 13.7%
Carrara White Metallic 47, or 12.1%
Chalk 43, or 11.1%
White 42, or 10.6%
Black 35, or 9.0%
Miami Blue 21, or 5.4%
Guards Red 19, or 4.9%
Racing Yellow 6, or 1.6%
Seats
18 Way Seats 188, or 49.7%
LWBS 121 or 31.3%
2 Way Seats 65 or 16.9%
Brakes
Iron brakes 272, or 70.3%
PCCB’s 115 or 29.7%
Colors
GT Silver 112, or 28.9%
Gentian Blue 53, or 13.7%
Carrara White Metallic 47, or 12.1%
Chalk 43, or 11.1%
White 42, or 10.6%
Black 35, or 9.0%
Miami Blue 21, or 5.4%
Guards Red 19, or 4.9%
Racing Yellow 6, or 1.6%
Seats
18 Way Seats 188, or 49.7%
LWBS 121 or 31.3%
2 Way Seats 65 or 16.9%
Brakes
Iron brakes 272, or 70.3%
PCCB’s 115 or 29.7%
Last edited by DFW01TT; 09-20-2020 at 02:29 AM.
#85
I’m really enjoying the LWB in the gt4. But if it was the Spyder, heated 18 ways, no question. Night time drive with the top down and the seat warm ....
#86
Agree completely. If I had gone with the GT4, which was actually my original plan, I would have spec'd the LWB, but I am so glad I have the heated seats in the Spyder. I have used them more than one might imagine. Top down starts to feel cool once the temps get into the low 60s F. Since I do a lot of spirited mountain driving in the morning, this happens a fair bit.
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#87
Surprised to see so many porky 18ways chosen by people supposedly obsessed by weigh enough to choose a manual top to save 15lbs. The 2ways and the lwbs fit me perfectly, so for me the 18ways are completely out of consideration.
From our resident data hound & wizard wizee:
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post16812382
Summary:
From our resident data hound & wizard wizee:
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post16812382
Summary:
- 18-way sport seats plus weigh approximately 127 lbs (63.4 lbs x 2)
- 2-way sport seats plus weigh around 86 lbs (43.2 lbs x 2)
- LWBS weigh around 76 lbs (38 lbs x 2)
#88
I doubt anyone chose the Spyder for the manual roof savings. If a power roof was an option on the Spyder, despite more cost and more weight, I suspect a significant majority of folks would buy it.
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#89
Surprised to see so many porky 18ways chosen by people supposedly obsessed by weigh enough to choose a manual top to save 15lbs. The 2ways and the lwbs fit me perfectly, so for me the 18ways are completely out of consideration.
From our resident data hound & wizard wizee:
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post16812382
Summary:
From our resident data hound & wizard wizee:
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post16812382
Summary:
- 18-way sport seats plus weigh approximately 127 lbs (63.4 lbs x 2)
- 2-way sport seats plus weigh around 86 lbs (43.2 lbs x 2)
- LWBS weigh around 76 lbs (38 lbs x 2)
The 18 ways also add power steering column adjustment and some extra wiring harnesses, so that adds even more weight than the seat weight difference.
#90