CaymanSinAR

Hey, looks like I speak Chester7.

Chester7

You are more succinct than me.

AZWCat

Does anyone believe the hp numbers? 20 hp down is not much difference and if the GT4 doesn’t show up with a pdk, it may be a wash on lap times. Hard to believe they would be so close in performance. IMO, Porsche does need to take a bigger performance step to get some more excitement in this line.

hf1

Just make that auto-top Spyder already...

Vgj

But what would it be called. It's not a boxster , but not the spyder, true-to-form. Spydster? Boxder? Not Speedster.

hf1

I don't care. Just give the best Boxster an auto-top option. No need to dance around it when opening/closing the top to enjoy it in its best iteration. One has nothing to do with the other.

CaymanSinAR

Agreed.

Though I could have lived with the Spyder if it had ventilated seats. No ventilated seats = no sale here.

Fnumber1user

The info I was able to get from a UK OPC was that the Cayman 6 is going to be extremely low production levels - he quoted they have been allocated 6 for the whole of 2020, whereas they have an allocation of 24 GT4's (both the Cayman 6 and GT4 being heavily oversubscribed).

I've opted for a 4 month old warrantied F4T GTS. I actually like the way they sounds, and 365PS is more than amble for a car of this weight, size, and handling.

Hired a 718S over Christmas for a week to reaffirm that the 718 platform was liveable as a weekend and short getaway car. Will keep it 2 years and see what happens, test drove a 992s last year expecting that it would convince myself it was completely unruly, impractical, uncomfortable and loud - it was none of those things, but it is quite expensive. The 718 was a revelation in comparison - more demanding to drive, less forgiving (read: I found the 992 very flattering to an average driver like myself)...said to the guys at PEC SIlverstone that the base model 718 was a little like driving on a knifes edge - albeit a fairly blunt knife, in other words great performance whilst on the tip of the blade, but very sharp either side - if you go beyond your or the cars limits, things happen/go wrong very quickly indeed. Natural mid-engine trait I guess, but not something I'm used to.

Can't wait to take delivery.

Yc911Kid

As long as this 4.0 gts is an auto-top 718 that out runs 981 spyder & can be had ~100k after optioning lwb & pccb without all the adm/allocation game, I'd be very pleased!

Vgj

Congrats, welcome to the club!

hf1

You and many others, I’m sure. Porsche underestimates the number of Boxster enthusiasts in northern climates with more than one season. I open/close my Boxster top on average >2x per run and I keep it stored in winter. I’m sure those driving in winter would appreciate a proper auto-top even more and would gladly pay the 10-15lb weight penalty to have one.

MidEngineRules

Well I guess Porsche will have to solve that with the first EV Spyder as they've closed the book on the 718 design. The question will be whether Porsche can produce a EV Boxster/Cayman anywhere around the car's current weight. Adding any unnecessary weight will be hard decisions for them.

matmanx1

Right. And with the mid-engine cars I believe weight is absolutely critical to the way they feel and respond. I'm willing to accept a slightly heavier 911 for various reasons but my love for the Boxster/Cayman platform is partly due to that ~3000lbs weight. I don't care how many fancy suspension or computer tricks you throw at a car you can never fake lightness. If the car isn't light it won't feel the way a Boxster/Cayman should feel. I'm pretty sure Porsche understand this so I have my fingers crossed for good things with the EV Boxster/Cayman.

hf1

I was talking about a 718 Boxster 4.0 without the Spyder top (i.e. "auto-top Spyder"), which is the title of this thread.

fantom

I am saddened that Porsche has apparently so lost it's way. Both from a marketing and from a production perspective.