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Old 11-04-2021, 06:36 PM
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BTW, these are the GT4 MR upgrades (suspension probably biggest difference):
  • MR coilover suspension
  • MR forged wheel set
  • MR brake pad set
  • MR steel flex line set (front axle and rear axle)
  • Protective grille set for air intake
  • MR air deflector
  • MR gurney
  • MR wing brackets
Manthey-Racing presents Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 MR

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Old 11-04-2021, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
So.....the car for the "ring time was a regular GT4RS or a GT4RS WP? It had both logos...wouldn't they use only the WP logos on the headrest and dash trim? This just show that they haven't finished the cars/specs.
You are taking this too seriously, relax and order the WP if it becomes available. We are all, including you, speculating and nothing we have seen so far is hard evidence.....maybe we should ask Whoopsy or Chris?
Ok, so now they aren’t old random parts?

Old 11-04-2021, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by phefner
Great points and like the mod ides to supplement an expensive Weissach Package.

Manthey-Racing released about 2 weeks ago a video of their 718 MR on the Ring. Looks like it did the full run in 7.27, so 5 seconds better then the factory 6-speed number, and 2 seconds slower then what we heard about the 718 GT4 PDK. Significantly slower than the GT4 RS number of 7:09.3

https://youtu.be/t9MjdsX52r8

It is worth pointing out that this car had Cup 2 tires, not Cup 2 Rs.

Not saying it will be near as quick as the 4 RS at all, but Bridge to Gantry in 7:05 or so? That's pretty awesome, all costs included.
Old 11-04-2021, 08:18 PM
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Good points @KelvinC . I was thinking in comparison against the GT4 6-speed & PDK, there doesn’t seem to be a big time difference in times with the GT4MR at the Ring, at least on that video and on that day with that driver in those conditions. Reads like all 3 GT4 variants were on the Cup2 N1’s.

GT4RS in Cup2 R’s, on another plane of existence it seems. Still no idea, lots of debate, on what the power plant is and gearbox ratios are.
Old 11-05-2021, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
Um, why don't you go back and look at the car they used for the time at the Nurburgring - it has GT4RS on the headrest and was taped over. It also had a Weissach logo on the glove box that was taped over.

Are those from the parts bins too??


Certainly, is there a possibility that it’s the limited production number on glove box.
Old 11-05-2021, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Kryton
My 2020 .2 GT3RS is a Weissach car, and I think they look great, if I'm lucky my 4RS will also be a WP one if it's an option.
But, It’s almost no doubt that the WP on gt4RS won’t come with carbon roof cause the roof is integrated with whole body. What a pity
Old 11-05-2021, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by panmric
But, It’s almost no doubt that the WP on gt4RS won’t come with carbon roof cause the roof is integrated with whole body. What a pity
Yes, I was looking at the roof of my GT4 the other day and I couldn't see how they'd manage a carbon roof on an RS, so I agree with you.
Old 11-05-2021, 10:33 AM
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Would anyone care to speculate if the GT4RS is officially launched at the Los Angeles Auto show, when would Porsche start sending out allocations to dealers / and make the order spec live on line?
Old 11-05-2021, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by panmric
But, It’s almost no doubt that the WP on gt4RS won’t come with carbon roof cause the roof is integrated with whole body. What a pity
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think the roof of the WP on the last GT3 RS came with a Magnesium roof...
Old 11-05-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think the roof of the WP on the last GT3 RS came with a Magnesium roof...
I believe the standard car came with the mag roof and the WP car got the carbon roof. The 991.1 RS had the mag roof which was lighter than carbon fiber at the time and was shipped around the world to be made. Marketing in overtime.
Old 11-05-2021, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think the roof of the WP on the last GT3 RS came with a Magnesium roof...
I think the point they're making is that there's no obvious seam on the Cayman roof to swap out part of it for carbon fibre. The 911 roof is obviously separate from the c-pillars.

That said... this doesn't seem an unsolvable problem to me.

Edit: Looks like I'm completely off track here. No issue at all.


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Old 11-05-2021, 12:51 PM
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Lightweight glass in the GT4's rear hatch (large piece) will save a bunch of weight...

Would also be awesome if the WP gave the GT4RS a CF frunk like the GT3 (and a rear hatch made from CF would be great too).

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Old 11-05-2021, 12:53 PM
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The GT3s are 911 based. Those were designed with a sunroof Targa top in mind. That in turn required different roof structure. Replacing a std panel with a CF there is easy so to speak. The picture you posted is somewhat misleading. Looking at an actual car there is no seam.
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
So.....the car for the "ring time was a regular GT4RS or a GT4RS WP? It had both logos...wouldn't they use only the WP logos on the headrest and dash trim? This just show that they haven't finished the cars/specs.
You are taking this too seriously, relax and order the WP if it becomes available. We are all, including you, speculating and nothing we have seen so far is hard evidence.....maybe we should ask Whoopsy or Chris?
My opinion,
the Ring car had WP (mag wheels and titanium cage).

WP is going to be, mag wheels, light roof, titanium cage.

New options for both, alcantara dash and matt carbon trim
Old 11-05-2021, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Teo
My opinion,
the Ring car had WP (mag wheels and titanium cage).

WP is going to be, mag wheels, light roof, titanium cage.

New options for both, alcantara dash and matt carbon trim
That sounds right (for Europe - here no cage of any material) and maybe lightweight frunk and glass (maybe even for non-WP RS). And WP probably gets CF swaybars...


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