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Some interesting notes on these images:
1. Has GT4 center caps
2. Lip Spyder logo is taped/covered up...why?
3. Painted roll bar is 981 look versus what the 982/718 Spyder configuration shows
Some interesting notes on these images:
1. Has GT4 center caps
2. Lip Spyder logo is taped/covered up...why?
3. Painted roll bar is 981 look versus what the 982/718 Spyder configuration shows
The LB plate gives it away as a Porsche factory test vehicle which normally are registered
this way. The logo taped is because as a test vehicle they didn't want to advertised what
it was. And we don't know if this photo was taken a while back before it was introduced.
As for the gt4 caps & painted roll bars....don't know. About PTS test vehicle, I wish!
The LB plate gives it away as a Porsche factory test vehicle which normally are registered
this way. The logo taped is because as a test vehicle they didn't want to advertised what
it was. And we don't know if this photo was taken a while back before it was introduced.
As for the gt4 caps & painted roll bars....don't know. About PTS test vehicle, I wish!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
That would make sense on the logo... but why then did they not cover the rear badges that clearly show 718 Spyder???
Some interesting notes on these images:
1. Has GT4 center caps
2. Lip Spyder logo is taped/covered up...why?
3. Painted roll bar is 981 look versus what the 982/718 Spyder configuration shows
That would make sense on the logo...
but why then did they not cover the
rear badges that clearly show 718 Spyder???
Didn't see the other photos. Good to know that link
was active & you could scroll to the other photos.
Originally Posted by JSF101
and Aurum Wheels
(not currently Spyder option!)
One more fact to make the case it's a Porsche
owned Spyder with parts not authorized for mere
customers.
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Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
That kind of looks like Audi Sonoma Green Metallic...
Beautiful. And while we are on the subject of how difficult it is
for Porsche to allow us to have PTS even thought they now
charge you nearly $13K for the privilege, it's refreshing that
Audi (a fellow VW Group company) says PTS 'Yes Mate, no
Worries'. It's only $3900 and no hoops to jump or 'windows'
to worry about if they are open or closed.
Hmm... was thinking... another possibility? Could this potentially be a new color to be added later? Early on for the 981 Spyder they made a Miami Blue version prior to production start... which they later added to the 718 and beyond. Could this be the same thing??? A new color for a potential rumored 982.2 six pot coming soon??? I could be completely wrong... just a thought.
Has anyone heard anything more about the Porsche wraps availability? I suspect that might be porsche’s answer: no PTS, here, have a $5k wrap. (No thank you).
And, to be clear, there are PTS 991.2 GT3RS, they are just not in the US. The new ones with the GPF and ITBs are available in PTS now.
As far as test colors, recall we saw a couple factory cars in mamba green before it was released. Unfortunately not released on 911 or 718, but there is some precedent for test cars for new colors. There is also precedent for popular PTS colors inspiring factory colors (gelbgrun —> lizard green being the most recent).
I, for one, would be perfectly happy to pay the normal upcharge for paint (even special paint) to get a spyder in that green (looks like Irish green to me — which was popular on GT3, and it’s close cousin British racing green also was found on a number of PTS cars). And yes, really, most everyone who wanted PTS on a GT3 got it. If only Porsche could continue that with the 718 spyder/GT4 ....
One last curious point, there have been quite a few PTS turbo S cars hitting dealers recently, especially cabs. I know they were not speced by the dealers, but rather bonus cars passed out by Porsche. I suspect there were just not enough customer PTS orders to fill ....
I prefer frankfurters to bologna. 🤣. Sahlen’s brand is my favorite. Grilled, over charcoal if possible.
Now I am hungry. Anyway, almost 15% of 991.2 GT3 are PTS and 21.4% of tourings are PTS in North America. Pretty much everyone who had an allocation and waited got PTS as you will see in Montoya’s chart and associated thread. The only ones that did not get PTS were the very first allocations (where everyone knew no PTS), the very last allocations sent to dealers (where the PTS build shots were already full), or people who just did not put in the request.
Does this mean anyone will get PTS on a spyder, who knows! Maybe no one gets it (like the US 991.2 GT3RS), maybe only the select few, who knows ... but I like to be an optimist.
Evil:
Who are you kidding? You may talk a little of
'Bologna' in your PTS postings, but your favorite
food is these delicious Fudge-Dipped goodies!
***
Originally Posted by evilfij
Anyway, almost 15% of 991.2 GT3 are PTS and 21.4% of tourings are PTS in North America.
Pretty much everyone who had an allocation and waited got PTS as you will see in Montoya’s
chart and associated thread. The only ones that did not get PTS were the very first allocations
(where everyone knew no PTS), the very last allocations sent to dealers (where the PTS build
shots were already full), or people who just did not put in the request.
Does this mean anyone will get PTS on a spyder, who knows! Maybe no one gets it (like the
US 991.2 GT3RS), maybe only the select few, who knows ... but I like to be an optimist.
Being an optimist is one thing, but misrepresenting what is going on globally with PTS a
Porsche is a different matter...and one that needs correction.
For reasons that are not very clear the US market got the bulk of PTS in the .2 991 gt3.
Porsche UK got one for a VIP customer and agreed to denied PTS to their regular UK
customers in exchange for a bit more allocations from PAG of GT3s to their market.
That was a Faustian Bargain of which you Evil, of all people, should be very familiar
with!
But basically the enthusiast base in the UK got shafted out of PTS because PAG made
it so difficult for the importer that they decided to trade it all off in exchange for a few
extra units of allocations.
If you carefully read all the posting in Montoya's thread on the subject, you will find
proof that PTS on the .2 991 gt3 was difficult to come by in Europe & the Middle East.
And not all US customers that wanted PTS in their .2 991 gt3s go it. There are many
reports in that Rennlist thread that state this fact. And is collaborated by the many
Private Messages & emails I received personally from frustrated Porsche customers
telling me about their 'woes'. So I think you will have a difficult time trying to make
the case that 'Pretty much everyone who had an allocation and waited got PTS'.
That is not credible if you see what happened in the UK, Europe, the Middle East
and in many cases here in North America. It is simply NOT true.
My point continues to be that PTS is the WORSE managed option at PAG. And
that Porsche has not done any substantive improvements in the program since
I first start covering PTS (2012) in Rennlist. It has not make this option easier to
order or more available to meet growing demand. If you don't want people to order
it, simply take it off the option list. But don't make us jump through hoops like circus
dogs to get it. Porsche has almost tripled the price of the option in just the past few
years...and still delivers a substandard product that is haunted by delays, cancellations,
short windows and often wholesale denials like in the 718 Spyder & gt4, etc.
And that 'no soup for you' message is not the exception for PTS at Porsche.
Let's look at the recent history. PTS was limited to 3 .2 987 US Spyders in
MY2012 (one was built in MY2011 but for PCNA) & probably under 50 of
the 991 Spyders worldwide. Few MY2014 .1 991 gt3s were allowed to be
PTS. And in MY2015, PAG put a moratorium on PTS on all models due to
some technical issues with production. A few (like my old 'Signal Green' gt3)
were produced as a quality control experiment in late MY2015 production.
But NOT ONE MY2016 .1 gt3 worldwide was allowed to be ordered PTS.
We (US) had many PTS .1 gt3 RS in MY2016/17...which I believe was tied
psychologically to the disaster of what happened with the 911R in that same
year in the US. Because so many longterm Porsche customers were denied
911 R allocations due to the right of first refusal of the nearly 300 918 VIPs
(a US only right). To partially compensate, PAG extended the US run of the
.1 991 gt3 RS & gave us some extra of everything...PTS included. Also note
that PTS was very limited in the 911R. Less than 99 in a run of 991 for the
entire world. And when you think those that received allocations of this hyper
desirable car were 'The Who's Who' of VIP in the Porsche world, even these
swinging-you-know-what, the most important Porsche clients in the world,
couldn't get that many PTS slots allocated to them!
We have discussed how PTS was denied to most, if not all, US allocations of .2 991
gt3 RS. You say some ROW units got PTS. Maybe...but neither the US or Canada
was lucky on that score. I haven't study the gt2 RS market, so I don't know how PAG
handled PTS there. And now PTS is totally denied on the MY2020 718 Spyder and
gt4.
The way Porsche is handling PTS for their customers is disgraceful. And no amount
of excusing Porsche for this mismanagement by even the Devil himself will change
the facts in the case!
Evil:
Who are you kidding? You may talk a little of
'Bologna' in your PTS postings, but your favorite
food is these delicious Fudge-Dipped goodies! ....
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Being in Texas, we don't get Drake's down here, and I never liked Devil Dogs, but I might be willing to kill for a "Fudge Dipped Devil Dog".
Although I'm certain that it could never be greater that a Ring Ding!
Spyder content .... yeah, I want one of those too. I'll pay for it though.
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