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Old 06-27-2018, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk2
I love my Cayman even more than I love my 911 and would really like to see the platform reach its full potential. However, I am not naive to the 911 effect.

See the following and chime in if you like: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1076...r-porsche.html

I offer the following two as 718 GT4 proposals:
1. 4 cylinder version of the GT3 motor, roughly 2.7 liters
2. smaller displacement version of GT3 motor with 9k max RPM

Neither would bring parity for the Cayman platform, but would still make for a hell of a car.

CJ, it would be good to get your perspective.

I just read thru the entire thread, interesting. I am new to Porsche so I think I am free of many biases. I love my 718 Cayman GTS, such a capable car and look forward to taking it on the track. I never really considered the 911 since I was looking to stay under $90 K and pay cash. From an aesthetics point of view, I like the modern lines of the Cayman, though I also appreciate the classic lines of the 911. If and when I ever trade in the 718, I would also consider a 911, I have never driven one. Also, lots of the same old comments regarding the sound of the 718, which I understand. The flat 6 sounds great. The flat 4 sounds fine, probably cause I am new to the Porsche world. I’ve always owned 4 cyl cars, many of which were / are turbocharged.
Old 06-27-2018, 01:13 PM
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What are your opinions on; How will a new GT4 effect the market on current used GT4s?
Old 06-28-2018, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 1337driver
What are your opinions on; How will a new GT4 effect the market on current used GT4s?
Depends on what's in it.

A turbo 4 GT4 will help the .1 version IMO. A 3.8 NA like the previous powerkit (although I bet still nerfed somewhat, as 430 is just a bit too high across the lineup) would drag the .1 version down a quarter notch but not bad.

A 3.8 or especially a 4.0 9000 rpm engine will punish the .1 pretty hard, assuming the pricing is anywhere near the cost per HP guidelines. If it's a 130+K Cayman with ADM and flipper punks all over them from day one, then the .1 might, even in that case, remain on very solid ground.
Old 06-29-2018, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 1337driver
What are your opinions on; How will a new GT4 effect the market on current used GT4s?
I don't think it'll have significant effect as it's expected the base price will go up.
Old 06-29-2018, 01:24 AM
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I think it's already been confirmed that the 718 GT4 will have a 3.8L from the Carrera S, enlarged to 4.0L, making something like 420hp.

It will not have a retuned GT3 engine.

But will be NA.
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think it's already been confirmed that the 718 GT4 will have a 3.8L from the Carrera S, enlarged to 4.0L, making something like 420hp.

It will not have a retuned GT3 engine.

But will be NA.
That would still be a great choice, as well as allow a price point more in line with the .1 GT4.

It would be an amazing car and will sell very well. Even the Spyder would do well now that NA's are so hard to get.
Old 07-11-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think it's already been confirmed that the 718 GT4 will have a 3.8L from the Carrera S, enlarged to 4.0L, making something like 420hp.

It will not have a retuned GT3 engine.

But will be NA.
I would expect this to slightly diminish the values of current GT4s
Old 07-11-2018, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 1337driver
I would expect this to slightly diminish the values of current GT4s
Maybe at the beginning of 718 GT4 availability, but after 2019 there will be a period of years without a new GT car release (GT3 is typically the first and comes in the 3rd year of the next generation). This intervening period usually supports GT car values.
Old 07-13-2018, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1337driver
I would expect this to slightly diminish the values of current GT4s
Probably not much if at all depending on the price increase.
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It's real !! Can't wait
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what's going on with the top part of the spoiler support struts... the parts that extend over the top of the spoiler? Not really sure of terminology here, but it seems strange, wouldn't a smaller support entirely under the wing be lighter and create less drag?
Old 07-20-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 80p
what's going on with the top part of the spoiler support struts... the parts that extend over the top of the spoiler? Not really sure of terminology here, but it seems strange, wouldn't a smaller support entirely under the wing be lighter and create less drag?
They are called swan neck wing supports and they actually create less drag and increase downforce. The airflow over the bottom of the wing is what creates downforce and keeping the surface clean increases the efficiency of the wing. This design will likely only be seen on the clubsport version of the GT4 for racing customers. The street version will most likely retain normal bottom mount supports for aesthetic and cost reasons.
Old 07-22-2018, 02:08 AM
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Here’s a more detailed explanation supporting Ryan’s comment:
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/rearwingLMPCFD2009.html
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This just posted on YouTube:


Is it just me, or does that sound turbocharged?


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