OFFICIAL DSC SPORT DISCUSSION FORUM
08-23-2016, 03:29 PM
#316
I will say... in the whole 2.5 laps that I did manage to complete yesterday - the car w/DSC Sport and Bilsteins felt pretty damned fantastic.
I did one other track event with it back over Memorial Day, but that's before I knew what that little "DSC Sport" box was, that was (literally) just dangling in the back trunk area. The car was all over the place at that event and I attributed it to me just not being accustomed to an aggressively-set-up car.
Yesterday the car was SUPER easy to drive. Tires had just started to get some heat in them and I was on the bumper of a KTM X-Bow (on something much stickier than I was) when things went BOOM but I was having a blast just getting warmed up.
Fingers are crossed I'm able to make another event this year before the snow flies...
I did one other track event with it back over Memorial Day, but that's before I knew what that little "DSC Sport" box was, that was (literally) just dangling in the back trunk area. The car was all over the place at that event and I attributed it to me just not being accustomed to an aggressively-set-up car.
Yesterday the car was SUPER easy to drive. Tires had just started to get some heat in them and I was on the bumper of a KTM X-Bow (on something much stickier than I was) when things went BOOM but I was having a blast just getting warmed up.
Fingers are crossed I'm able to make another event this year before the snow flies...
08-24-2016, 05:01 PM
#317
Advanced
I have never heard of this issue before. If this issue didn't occur on the previous car, then I'd recommend unplugging the unit, visually inspect the connector pins, then leave the unit unplugged for few hours(to clear the buffer) then install the unit again(make sure ignition key is out).
1) The 2-mode firmware is much more refined in its operation; like the difference between iphone 4 and iphone 6.
2) Current DSC Tuning Software doesn't support older 3-mode firmware for 997. So if you prefer 3-mode you have to like it as is, since tuning custom tuning isn't currently supported for this version.
3) The 2-mode firmware has a feature called Reverse G Table. Within a user defined range of g force and within is user defined rate of g force change, the use can define a default damping % for comfort. For example, you can make the damping resistance to be only 1% when g force is under 0.3g and with less than 20% g rate change for comfort. But if you exceed 0.3g and/or exceed the 20% rate of change the system will command with the values that are in the "normal" G Table. This is truly revolutionary next-gen supercars technology that you can have today!
I think any one with 3-mode should take advantage of our free upgrade to 2-mode while the offer stands. I am not pushing this to make money since we actually don't 'cause we do it for free. If anything its more work for us. It is a truly better product that we want DSC users to experience. For upgrade, the unit must be sent to our shop. Senders pays shipping cost.
1) The 2-mode firmware is much more refined in its operation; like the difference between iphone 4 and iphone 6.
2) Current DSC Tuning Software doesn't support older 3-mode firmware for 997. So if you prefer 3-mode you have to like it as is, since tuning custom tuning isn't currently supported for this version.
3) The 2-mode firmware has a feature called Reverse G Table. Within a user defined range of g force and within is user defined rate of g force change, the use can define a default damping % for comfort. For example, you can make the damping resistance to be only 1% when g force is under 0.3g and with less than 20% g rate change for comfort. But if you exceed 0.3g and/or exceed the 20% rate of change the system will command with the values that are in the "normal" G Table. This is truly revolutionary next-gen supercars technology that you can have today!
I think any one with 3-mode should take advantage of our free upgrade to 2-mode while the offer stands. I am not pushing this to make money since we actually don't 'cause we do it for free. If anything its more work for us. It is a truly better product that we want DSC users to experience. For upgrade, the unit must be sent to our shop. Senders pays shipping cost.
Also, I understand taht the firmware may be more up to date but is there anything different in the way the DSC actually controls the dampers?
Lastly. Is there a way you can send me a file to upgrade the firmare? I'm a little reluctant to send the unit accros the globe for something like this, i seem to re flash my IOS every couple of weeks!
and its even less work for you guys to do for nothing..Thanks
08-24-2016, 05:50 PM
#318
Rennlist Member
HI Tom, many thanks for your respnse, a liitle confused, still, with the tuning sofwate not supporting the three mode unit. I read a thread where there was an error in one of tables from the default map, one of the right hand settings was 70% instead of 80% vs the left. I actually used the tuning siftware to correct this and upload it the the DSC, downloaded it again and verified the changes were made.
Also, I understand taht the firmware may be more up to date but is there anything different in the way the DSC actually controls the dampers?
Lastly. Is there a way you can send me a file to upgrade the firmare? I'm a little reluctant to send the unit accros the globe for something like this, i seem to re flash my IOS every couple of weeks! and its even less work for you guys to do for nothing..
Thanks
Also, I understand taht the firmware may be more up to date but is there anything different in the way the DSC actually controls the dampers?
Lastly. Is there a way you can send me a file to upgrade the firmare? I'm a little reluctant to send the unit accros the globe for something like this, i seem to re flash my IOS every couple of weeks!
and its even less work for you guys to do for nothing..Thanks
app s/w releases thereafter only support 2-map locations, so it could be that
you are using the earlier version of the app... if you haven't updated your app recently this is most likely the case.
I dont think the DSC's firmware is (yet) field upgradable, so I think you will have to ship it back, maybe talk nice to Tom and he will send you a new DSC
and you can return your unit once received ... or face the wrath of RL for being a douche, which of course you are not!
08-25-2016, 10:53 PM
#319
Racer
Here's kinda a lame question but...
A fully equipped TPC 997.2 Turbo S with sways, Tractive DDA's, links, wide track kit etc... car for car, will it be faster than say a 991 GT3 / 991 GT3 RS on the track?
I absolutely love my car right now with your swaps and wide track kit... track days are already way more enjoyable. I still need to improve my driving but I'm thinking about doing the full DDA setup once I feel like I've max'd out my driving. I'm just curious if maximizing this 997.2 platform is worth it or not.
A fully equipped TPC 997.2 Turbo S with sways, Tractive DDA's, links, wide track kit etc... car for car, will it be faster than say a 991 GT3 / 991 GT3 RS on the track?
I absolutely love my car right now with your swaps and wide track kit... track days are already way more enjoyable. I still need to improve my driving but I'm thinking about doing the full DDA setup once I feel like I've max'd out my driving. I'm just curious if maximizing this 997.2 platform is worth it or not.
08-26-2016, 11:32 AM
#320
Rennlist Member
Here's kinda a lame question but...
A fully equipped TPC 997.2 Turbo S with sways, Tractive DDA's, links, wide track kit etc... car for car, will it be faster than say a 991 GT3 / 991 GT3 RS on the track?
I absolutely love my car right now with your swaps and wide track kit... track days are already way more enjoyable. I still need to improve my driving but I'm thinking about doing the full DDA setup once I feel like I've max'd out my driving. I'm just curious if maximizing this 997.2 platform is worth it or not.
A fully equipped TPC 997.2 Turbo S with sways, Tractive DDA's, links, wide track kit etc... car for car, will it be faster than say a 991 GT3 / 991 GT3 RS on the track?
I absolutely love my car right now with your swaps and wide track kit... track days are already way more enjoyable. I still need to improve my driving but I'm thinking about doing the full DDA setup once I feel like I've max'd out my driving. I'm just curious if maximizing this 997.2 platform is worth it or not.
On the other hand, we have built a similarly equipped 997.2 Turbo PDK that's fully stripped interior with full weld-in cage, lightweight body panels, cup doors, on Pirelli slicks. This car is quicker than factory spec 997 car cup cars.
08-26-2016, 04:54 PM
#321
Rennlist Member
At our local 2.0-mile track a 997.2 Turbo PDK with TPC bars, TPC wide front track kit, TPC toe links & suspension setup, DSC Tractive DDA, with ~530whp, fully interior + bolt-in roll bar, weighing upper-3,600 lbs runs average +/- 1 second to a stock 991 GT3 with track alignment driven by comparable advanced-skill level driver on comparable tires. The 991 GT3 is no doubt a better track car off the showroom compared to a stock Turbo.
08-29-2016, 02:14 AM
#322
Racer
Just thinking about it now that's not shabby at all making up the performance gap between two radically different generation of cars even with the weight disadvantage of the Turbo. Which by the way I was wrong on the weight...with half tank of gas and no driver this car is 3800-some lbs!
I like the go-karty feeling of stiffer springs on track. I'm not sure if flatter cornering = more grip/faster but I sure do like that feeling. Will definitely be trying the Tractives soon enough.
08-30-2016, 11:24 PM
#323
Rennlist Member
yesterday did received my DSC for my GT3, already installed. On Friday, will align the GT3 for next PCA DE after new height settings.
08-31-2016, 11:21 AM
#325
Rennlist Member
What ride height and alignment numbers are you planning on? I'd be more than happy to review them if you would like. Feel free to email me if you don't want to post those numbers on forum.
08-31-2016, 09:28 PM
#326
Rennlist Member
09-01-2016, 04:48 PM
#327
4th Gear
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This unit has been sold. Thank you for all the interest!
Greetings Fellow Rennlisters!
I have a DSC Suspension Controller (V2) For Sale if anyone is interested:
https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...e-991-gt3.html
I hope this is not an inappropriate place to post this message. If so, please delete the message.
Thanks very much.
Greetings Fellow Rennlisters!
I have a DSC Suspension Controller (V2) For Sale if anyone is interested:
https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...e-991-gt3.html
I hope this is not an inappropriate place to post this message. If so, please delete the message.
Thanks very much.
Last edited by Slim-GT3911; 09-08-2016 at 01:51 PM.
09-03-2016, 04:26 PM
#328
Drifting
I got my unit back in. Nice touch on the display of seeing the setting one is in. Curious, would it be possible to star the unit on "sport mode" vs. "normal mode' when the car restarts up ?
09-03-2016, 04:31 PM
#329
Rennlist Member
Give us your impression on the changes you feel.
09-07-2016, 05:50 PM
#330
Drifting
Okay - i haven't had time due to the baby however today, after dropping baby off at daycare i went back home to get the gt3.
From my ~50 miles of driving a 997.2 GT3rs 4.0 and being passenger for ~200 miles of fast pace canyon driving- i would say my update made the .1 gt3 feel extremely similar to the 4.0 from my recollection. I have been driving in "normal" mode. The rebound "feels" to my butt much better. Will report after i go rip it through some canyons.
