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my wife made the same remark, she said "I just want to go without having to overthink things".
we both drive EVs and it is likely that I will be selling the taycan and will replace it with a plug in hybrid because she rarely goes more than 20 miles on any drive that she takes and having a gasser for winter road trips makes sense for us. her car is a Jaguar Ipace which is very fun to drive, is still delivering 245 miles of range @ 100% SOC, the only draw back is the Jag just doesn't have the wow factor of the taycan.
I just returned from an unscheduled trip from FL to NYC and the EA experience was tough at best. many of the 350 units were offline and some of the ones that were online were very, very slow, one was delivering 7kw. here's a screen shot from one unit.
the 150's were very slow as well. I was barely getting over 60kw at 3 different locations, one started at 127 but settled in at around 87 kw.
two possible reasons for this could be the cold weather, low 40's, and unlikely but maybe the car's battery wasn't warm enough.
on the return trip the chargers were slowish as well, getting 120+ on 350's and 87 kw on 150s.
this coupled with the car's range being nerfed by the last software update I was showing 190 miles of range @ 100% soc. which made what was easy hops from charger to charger into nail biting runs.
because of the slowness of the chargers on this trip which I could do with 4 maybe 5 charging stops I had to make 8 stops to charge.
in the past it would show 240+ and in warm weather I could get past 250 miles driving the car, 4s with 20 inch wheels and performance battery is making me consider selling the car.
my Ipace is still showing 245+ range despite the chilly weather.
between EA's poor performance and porsche's nerfing the range the car is not doing the job that I need it to do. I bought a porsche, I want to drive like it is a porsche and not sticking to the speed limit in order to make it to the next charger.
1: as soon as you noticed that there were issues with seemingly all of the L3 EA chargers, did you consider searching for L3 chargers from say, Chargepoint? Yes, you’d be paying, but time is of course money;
2: can you refresh my memory on what exactly Porsche changed in the firmware that has decreased range? I ask because Audi has performed two firmware updates to the etron, the first giving a decent bump in range on my ‘19, and the second one a BMS update that may have helped range; (too early for me to tell at this point);
3: did you bother calling EA to try and have then reboot any of the chargers?
Sorry it turned into such a ****ty drive, btw.
Last edited by thebishman; 01-15-2023 at 01:26 PM.
Exactly. On a recent one day trip, it became an overnighter. Time spent at chargers and stress of the said "nail biting runs."
In comparison, last week, I did an eight hour trip in the Cayenne. No fuss no muss. At 1/4 tank, pull over at the next interchange and fill up. Gas pumps always worked, no awkward charger handshaking, delivery of gas in drip and drops.
Me thinketh we are gluttons for punishment, or just want the excitement (in otherwise boring lives) to drive a Taycan with all the charging hassles.
It must have been like this at the turn of the century to drive a gasoline powered car, when gas stations were a rarity?
I didn't realize you already have a Taycan, I assumed you were getting one for the first time from the base model question.
3: did you bother calling EA to try and have then reboot any of the chargers?
Prolly the biggest fault is with us... I know I never phoned EA when I found their chargers not working. The absolute relief of finding a working charger and getting my Taycan back on the road was my priority. I am at fault.
Took time to take photo but not time to call EA. My shame.
1: as soon as you noticed that there were issues with seemingly all of the L3 EA chargers, did you consider searching for L3 chargers from say, Chargepoint? Yes, you’d be paying, but time is of course money;
2: can you refresh my memory on what exactly Porsche changed in the firmware that has decreased range? I ask because Audi has performed two firmware updates to the etron, the first giving a decent bump in range on my ‘19, and the second one a BMS update that may have helped range; (too early for me to tell at this point);
3: did you bother calling EA to try and have then reboot any of the chargers?
Sorry it turned into such a ****ty drive, btw.
1. in many places alternatives are not available and since I was forced to drive the bottom of the battey I had little range available to seek out alternatives
2. a couple of months ago porsche did a major software update, sorry I cannot relate any technical info as to what the updated software did to the range other than the observable decrease in range
3. no, waste of time
1. in many places alternatives are not available and since I was forced to drive the bottom of the battey I had little range available to seek out alternatives
2. a couple of months ago porsche did a major software update, sorry I cannot relate any technical info as to what the updated software did to the range other than the observable decrease in range
3. no, waste of time
FWIW- I’ve actually had good experiences with calling EA when I’ve had problems charging. No long hold times. Helpful and easy to understand reps. They have rebooted chargers, remotely started free charging sessions and connected me with Porsche Connect Specialists when needed.
All the good corners in the USA are taken by Chevron, Exxon, 76 etc. Hey maybe one of the geniuses at those companies will decide to get in the Electric Charging business!!??
I reached out to one of the biggest mega gas station operators in TX. They told me EV is a passing fad.
Maybe he should pay attention and look around rather than spouting Oil Industry talking points!
Absolutely correct! Somewhere I read ICE manufacturers and oil companies are in “collusion” to discredit EV. I know that sounds like conspiracy nut comment. But if you look at even Porsche which has a winner in the Taycan, all they promote is 911 this and 911 that. Look at the current issue of Christophorus. Exception is Porsche NA CEO, he drives a Taycan. But grandpa Porsche, Wolfgang, always is in a 911 series.
Since you sent us the link, it is a Buc-ee’s manager who told me EV is a passing fad.
So I assume he is now looking for another job since his station is going EV.
Also points out the manager of a branch of a company does NOT always know what their company's long term plans can be.
Absolutely correct! Somewhere I read ICE manufacturers and oil companies are in “collusion” to discredit EV. I know that sounds like conspiracy nut comment. But if you look at even Porsche which has a winner in the Taycan, all they promote is 911 this and 911 that. Look at the current issue of Christophorus. Exception is Porsche NA CEO, he drives a Taycan. But grandpa Porsche, Wolfgang, always is in a 911 series.
The legacy manufacturers like Porsche cannot simply pivot to large-scale EV production - this will take time.
Same as gas-station operators - they (many of them, anyway) see what's coming, but it will take time for them to add charging capabilities.
The manager's comments are made even more ironic when you think about how well EV charging aligns with Buc-ees' model, which involves having customers spend as much time and $$$ as possible in the actual stores. In the 15-30 minutes required to charge, customers can buy PLENTY of very-profitable merchandise!
01-15-2023, 07:02 AM
