I doubt the infrastructure for actually using the car for a "road trip" will ever be reliable in my lifetime. I'm beginning to wonder if it makes sense to spend this much $$$ for a car (GTS ST allocation) my wife will realistically only use around the greater PHX area... never have to worry about this with her RS5 sportback, and we could jump in that tomorrow for a stress free trip to Durango!

 

life expectancy in the US is around 78....

so are you, like, 68? or older? cuz yeah, you'd then be right about infrastructure not being in place during your lifetime.

​​​​​​Tesla superchargers (open to non-teslas) and other networks should be pretty fleshed out by 2032.

just say you don't like EVs, it's ok. instead of making up BS.

i drive to NJ from DC all the time, i have zero range anxiety. Certain interstate corridors have plenty of reliable charging options right NOW. and i forsee that only improving.
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Infrastructure prolly not be ready for decades.

It is not just an adapter you need to connect to a tesla charger.

 

It is NOT accurate.

 

Operative words are "certain interstate corridors..."

 

I could easily road trip my Tesla, today.

If they can do it, so can someone else. Just no one sees the business case for doing so. Clearly ElectrifyAmerica was done in response to dieselgate and has not been given the proper resources for maintenance and upgrades. You don't see this crap for Tesla, or in Scandinavia.

So I completely reject your sentiment.

 

I hate to admit...Tesla got it right with the supercharger network. IMHO, their cars are junk...but the supercharger network is A+++

There is no money in this charger business. Unlike gas stations. Price for gas is a loss leader. Gas stations make money on beer, cigarettes and snickers.

From what I've gathered, EA (as part of the dieselgate settlement) was given the mandate to implement chargers. Not to maintain or support.

 

Considering that at the moment charging takes more time than gas in most long distance cases, why can they not sell the same things at a charging station?

Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV Lover)

 

not in my experience - it is in fact misleading - almost stranding me in Halfmoon Bay, CA once.

 

it's already better - and will get better year over year - but you're welcome to your opinion - the TEsla network is "ready now" - it only took about 3 years - if there is a need it could be done in about 5 years or less - deploying EV chargers is easier than gas stations - no toxic tanks, deep digging or pumps

it's actually fairly affordable and easy - we just lack incentive.

it could all work and work well if we wanted it to - electrical equipment run reliably all over the world all the time, and has for 100's of years - when it's not working it's because of lack of motivation to keep it working - pure and simple - not due to any actual difficulties.

EA lacks any motivation to care about it working - Tesla runs superchargers with 100's of stalls (yes 100's of stalls) with a very high degree of reliability

it can all work - it's just not working because the existing guys really really hope this EV stuff will just go away and it's all a bad dream.

 

I have taken numerous long distance road trips in my tesla, taycan and shorter ones using my Ipace, I haven't a clue as to what facts you are relying on for your comment.

 

I appreciate the input.

A friend takes delivery of a VW iD4 this week and so is learning to navigate the EV fast-charging space. He has opted for an EA home charging station, reasoning that one account will work across both home and travel charging scenarios.

We are also considering a Genesis GV60 for my wife, and so will have the same types of questions should we actually make that purchase.

Where can one see user ratings for various fast-charging charging stations, other than PlugShare?

 

plugshare is the only source I've personally found - that does not mean there are not others - I just haven't found them.

 

It is just an adapter - in europe where no adapter is required it's already working - billing is handled via the Tesla App - so no sure what you're referring to - underneath the covers electricity is electricity - so the Supercharger network not working for CCS vehicles is an adapter away from "just working"

and this article says Tesla is buidling 4 "mega-site" superchargers with Govt. money - which requires at least 50% of the stalls to support CCS vehicles - so yeah we're making progress

https://driveteslacanada.ca/supercha...orlds-largest/

 

yeah there is virtually NO fast charging infrastructure - and this picture is mostly the same as it was 2 years ago - no massive growth at all - it will never be ready - plan for failure that's always the best approach.