This is definitely not true.

 

The source for the 40% was evsolutions.com. I expect it was based on cold storage(ex..at a motel) and driving cold, not an 'A to A' trip with storage in a conditioned garage.

 

Please explain how you know that.

 

What is 'extreme cold' for you? A to A trip, or extended outdoor storage?

 

While battery types vary, you can literally prove this. Take two identical flashlights with new batteries. Put one in the freezer. Wait 5 hours, then take it out and turn both on. See which one goes out first. Then repost your opinion.

 

Luckily I will never have to deal with that, as I don't expect to ever drive in those temps again in my lifetime. Though I think that estimation is a bit overstated. I've seen some cold weather tests on YouTube and, while the cars do lose some range, it's not that much. And the Taycan has an advanced thermal management system that can heat the battery pack. Either way, personally, I could care less.

Maybe this will be an unexpected benefit of global warming - longer EV ranges!

 

70,000 miles of EV driving in temps from 105 to 20, plus 3 years of discussing EV's with owners in multiple states / countries including Canada.

But please do explain how your mushy math comes up with 40%.

 

evsolutions.com
BTW, 20F is a warm daytime temp for several months in northern climes. Do tell how your EV does in -20F. Which should address my contention that EVs are of questionable utility in an A to B to C to A outdoor storage, no preconditioning, then drive away. Surely you'd agree that range is lowered; the amount is mushy as I said. You seem to have specifics. I'd like to know...tell us.

 

I have regularly driven numerous EV's (Tesla Model X, Audi E-tron and Taycan Turbo S) in sub zero temperatures. The Audi and the Taycan see about a 15-20% hit when below zero. The Tesla was closer to 25%. The Tesla was worse because it didn't have thermally insulated glass.

Consumption was high in the picture because we had climbed from 6300ft to 10,000ft on our way to Copper Mountain. Round trip from Manitou Springs to Copper Mountain is about 250 miles. We have been doing this trip in freezing temps for several years with EV's. A quick top off in Frisco (15-25%) is plenty to make the journey. I've also done this trip in blizzards without a significant hit to range.

 

Here's 'needsdecaf' comments on another Taycan thread. Not even cold....ready for northern climes? Some say 'Yes'. I'm not willing to bet my life right now.

Teslas are very hit or miss.

I've had two Model 3's now and both have had warranty service. I don't mind scheduling through the app at all. I do wish they were better at communicating.

Your service and warranty experience is pretty typical, but not a constant, if that makes sense. For some cars, this is the level of issues. For others next to none. Quality control and consistency is not Tesla's strong suit.

Not sure what your son is doing that he never got more than 100 miles on the highway without recharging. Even my LR Performance gets about 220 on the highway, and that's at a constant 80 MPH

So, with Tesla, you take your chances. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. Not a great company overall.

 

No.

 

https://blog.evsolutions.com/how-to-...ather-and-snow

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https://newsroom.aaa.com/2019/02/col...vehicle-range/

 

Two comments on that. First, a big part of the range loss is the heavy use of the heater, not the cold outside. Second, given the timing of that testing, it almost certainly involved Teslas without insulated glass.

 

Just a note, diesels require an engine block heater when the temp drops below about 5F.