Yes, it is just like the Macan and Cayenne. The more profits Porsche makes selling whatever vehicles they can the better it is for us 911 fans.

 

If I’m not mistaken, 992 sales are down > -16% while the 718 are up > +54%.

Actually, I believe every Porsche Sports Car model is up except for the declining 992.

Hmmm.

 

I think there is a shortage or disruption of some critical parts of 992 production. The dealer near me told me they will not have any dealer stock of 992s until September at the earliest. And that is not by choice.

 

Chicagoland sucks for cars in general. The only Porsche model you can get a discount as new and the low miles used models are within reason for pricing are the Taycans.
If you consider delivered to the dealer as sold, yes for sure they're selling well. Not long ago dealers still had 2020 models. Still several MY21 in the lots with MY22 to arrive soon. The retail difference after 1 year of use is about 20% or more. Those facts make me think otherwise from all this success that shareholders love so much.

 

Yeah, Champion Porsche here in South FL has 18 new 2021 Taycans looking for a home.

 

That makes sense but somewhat of a bummer they made the 992 so reliant on tech rather than just keeping it simple.

 

Looks like the Panamera is still alive. Q2 2021 was the Panamera’s best North American quarter in terms of sales since Q4 2019 and accounted for over a quarter of Porsche’s sedan sales. Taycan has no doubt put a large dent in the Panamera’s sales, but it has by no means “killed” the Panamera. As an aside, keep in mind that sedans have generally lost demand in the last several years and Taycan attracts not just those who want a sedan but also those who want an EV Porsche. Don’t be surprised to see the Taycan’s sales go down when the Macan EV is released. Back to my main point, Panamera and Taycan are different cars in more ways than one and can co-exist successfully by serving different segments. Panamera is also pretty popular in other markets such as the Asian markets although I can’t find Porsche’s sales numbers there (if anyone has access, would be interested to see). Porsche hasn’t shied from producing and selling low-volume models in the past and it won’t stop now with the Panamera. A good example is the 718 (Porsche’s lowest selling and second-lowest priced model; by contrast, Panamera sells more than 718 and likely has higher profit margins as it is Porsche’s second most expensive model after the 911).

 

so i took a look at the websites of a few local porsche dealers. seems they have more macans than anything. local dealer has 44 (!) macans, and 8 taycans. and 0 992.

 

No new 992s for sale around here either.

 

I bought one of the last new 992s in metro Chicago when I bought mine in Nov 2020

Literally.

In fact, I may have bought the last new S Cab in the region.

That’s saying a lot for such a huge metropolitan area

 

I can vouch for that.

Not only LA, SF, but SD, San Jose, Oakland, etc. Basically every major metropolitan area in CA, with the exception of Sacramento perhaps.

 

Unrelated to sales… the Taycan is great when my wife and kids are coming along, otherwise I drive the 911.

 

Having a fast electric car seems very exciting at first, but I found it was all over too soon.

Having done 140,000 miles in Tesla Model "S"'s, the elephant in the room with the Taycan (similar) is that you cannot actually go anywhere in it, apart from back to base!

Charging en-route is time consuming at best. I had some horror stories in the Model S with a decent charging infrastructure.230 miles is the effective range of a tonne of lithium batteries. Not 300 or 400 miles.

That means you start thinking about charging when you have completed 170 miles in a large battery Model S.

If you are going somewhere and coming back again the same day, it had better not be more than 100 miles away from base otherwise you really need to plan charging.

I dread to think what a long journey in a Taycan would be like,even compared to a Model S with a decent charging network.

For that reason the Panamera has a very large advantage. You can go places.

The 992 and the Taycan are not comparable, so why compare them? Tracking a Taycan for a few hours in the way you can track a 992 would be a joke. The tyres, brakes and suspension bushes wold wear out and the battery would probably overheat. It would be so expensive.

I have one client who bought a pair of Taycans last year. We had a meeting out of town last week and he turned up in his Range Rover.

I love the idea of not polluting the environment, however with many of these electric cars, the pollution costs are front loaded in the extra energy used in their construction and the coal burnt to produce the electricity.

 

While dealer stock is high in some areas the leases are absolutely horrible. Cheaper to buy the car by a good margin. If the leases were good i would of pulled the trigger a long time ago. Hard for me to jump on a car that may be worth 50k less in 3-4 years

 

Monthly lease rates on any car can differ wildly from one dealer to another and from one region to another.