Cost to replace Taycan's battery?
#31
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also hopeful any replacement would be a "better" battery - kinda upgrade the whole car - maybe more capacity or improved chemistries - batteries are so modular - it could be a really awesome "opportunity" to refresh one's battery and kinda get a new car in the process…
#32
I don't buy aftermarket warranties because I can afford not to pay someone extra to hedge the catastrophic risk. If I couldn't, I'd wonder if I could actually afford a $150k car.
I don't have an aftermarket warranty on the 991 Turbo S and I have a feeling that an engine replacement is more expensive than a new Taycan battery.
Lastly, I'm confident that if battery failure suddenly becomes common (which I feel is extremely unlikely given how conservative VAG is with battery use), a whole after-market industry will arise to address it.
Remember than Tesla uses more of the available power from a battery than other companies.
I don't have an aftermarket warranty on the 991 Turbo S and I have a feeling that an engine replacement is more expensive than a new Taycan battery.
Lastly, I'm confident that if battery failure suddenly becomes common (which I feel is extremely unlikely given how conservative VAG is with battery use), a whole after-market industry will arise to address it.
Remember than Tesla uses more of the available power from a battery than other companies.
Last edited by Visceral; 12-02-2021 at 11:58 AM.
#33
also hopeful any replacement would be a "better" battery - kinda upgrade the whole car - maybe more capacity or improved chemistries - batteries are so modular - it could be a really awesome "opportunity" to refresh one's battery and kinda get a new car in the process…
If a replacement battery is necessary, it will more likely be lower cost and lower footprint manufacturing while maintaining similar performance to silicon anode lithium. Battery longevity is already likely to be fantastic within the conservative Porsche parameters. Tesla uses almost identical Panasonic cells to Porsche's LG Chem and treats them a bit more harshly and hasn't suffered longevity issues. If anything, Tesla has proven how errant other companies are when they are so cautious.
I can picture specific aftermarket upgrades that allow greater current handling for the controller and motor (and more power). The battery in the 4S supplies the same high current that the Turbo S needs during the launch. It's the motor and controller/inverter that are limiting your car.
#34
As noted in the other thread, it will not make any kind of economic sense to replace the battery pack. Sell the car and buy a new one instead of lighting $40+K on fire to maintain an 8 year old first generation relic. For the vast majority of people you’re only looking at 10% degradation by 150,000 miles.
if you’re worried about those few % then don’t use DC fast charging more than absolutely necessary, don’t charge over 80-85% and don’t let the battery discharge completely. Prevention cheaper than cure ...
if you’re worried about those few % then don’t use DC fast charging more than absolutely necessary, don’t charge over 80-85% and don’t let the battery discharge completely. Prevention cheaper than cure ...
#35
Nissan wants almost 20k for their Leaf battery replacement, you think Porche only cost 30-40k? My guess is it's going to be close to 50-60k to replace the entire battery. Still cheaper than your engine rebuild if that's what it is?
#36
Replacement battery
I can picture specific aftermarket upgrades that allow greater current handling for the controller and motor (and more power). The battery in the 4S supplies the same high current that the Turbo S needs during the launch. It's the motor and controller/inverter that are limiting your car.
See:
However, they have not release what it would cost. What is clear, if they made a Taycan battery (and Taycan owners could afford it) the Taycan would see a big improvement in range too. The company is still active, but I do not know what their future plans are or if they are just hoping to be bought out by another company.
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#37
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Someone on another forum said the cost to replace the battery for his car was $50k (under warranty). No support for the amount, just passing on what he posted.
#38
Never underestimate the Porsche tax.
As a point of reference, 1st gen Panamera hybrid batteries have been failing with low miles at around 6 year mark. Dealer quote on replacement for a 9.4 kWh LiIon battery is $25k for the battery plus $15k labor. Comparable size battery for any other hybrid is about $5k all in.
As a point of reference, 1st gen Panamera hybrid batteries have been failing with low miles at around 6 year mark. Dealer quote on replacement for a 9.4 kWh LiIon battery is $25k for the battery plus $15k labor. Comparable size battery for any other hybrid is about $5k all in.
#39
[begin quote] A lithium-ion battery is composed of cathode, anode, separator and electrolyte. A lithium-ion battery applied at smartphones, power tools and EVs uses liquid electrolyte solution. On the other hand, a solid-state battery uses solid electrolyte not liquid.
[end quote]
Some challenges of solid-state batteries, are defined in foreign languages (again from wiki
“more in the context/genre of "Solid State Electronics" which have few if any moving parts and either work or they do not work…”
Other than the latter (and either work or they do not work) the former (Solid State Electronics" which have few if any moving parts) is kinda - generally is true.
Last edited by Dr. G7; 02-05-2023 at 08:47 AM.