XLR82XS

That's my thinking. I ordered my '21 Taycan to keep long term and if a replacement pack is required, Porsche would offer the latest battery tech.

Visceral

I don't buy aftermarket warranties because I can afford not to pay someone extra to hedge the catastrophic risk. If I couldn't, I'd wonder if I could actually afford a $150k car.
I don't have an aftermarket warranty on the 991 Turbo S and I have a feeling that an engine replacement is more expensive than a new Taycan battery.

Lastly, I'm confident that if battery failure suddenly becomes common (which I feel is extremely unlikely given how conservative VAG is with battery use), a whole after-market industry will arise to address it.

Remember than Tesla uses more of the available power from a battery than other companies.

Visceral

Sadly I feel like the opposite is likely. An enormous portion of the tech on the Taycan is how is uniquely handles silicon anode lithium cells. If anything, I believe that Porsche/VAG is currently trying to reduce Cobalt needs while *maintaining* charge performance and longevity.

If a replacement battery is necessary, it will more likely be lower cost and lower footprint manufacturing while maintaining similar performance to silicon anode lithium. Battery longevity is already likely to be fantastic within the conservative Porsche parameters. Tesla uses almost identical Panasonic cells to Porsche's LG Chem and treats them a bit more harshly and hasn't suffered longevity issues. If anything, Tesla has proven how errant other companies are when they are so cautious.

I can picture specific aftermarket upgrades that allow greater current handling for the controller and motor (and more power). The battery in the 4S supplies the same high current that the Turbo S needs during the launch. It's the motor and controller/inverter that are limiting your car.

bmxtreme

How is the battery holding up for you? Zero chance you'll see 10% in 150k miles. It's more likely you see 10% degradation before it hits 30k miles.

bmxtreme

Nissan wants almost 20k for their Leaf battery replacement, you think Porche only cost 30-40k? My guess is it's going to be close to 50-60k to replace the entire battery. Still cheaper than your engine rebuild if that's what it is?

earl pottinger

One company claims they can already extend the range of a Tesla to 752 miles with their battery replacement.

See:
However, they have not release what it would cost. What is clear, if they made a Taycan battery (and Taycan owners could afford it) the Taycan would see a big improvement in range too. The company is still active, but I do not know what their future plans are or if they are just hoping to be bought out by another company.

Earl Colby Pottinger (BEV Lover)

PDACPA

Someone on another forum said the cost to replace the battery for his car was $50k (under warranty). No support for the amount, just passing on what he posted.

amphicar770

Never underestimate the Porsche tax.

As a point of reference, 1st gen Panamera hybrid batteries have been failing with low miles at around 6 year mark. Dealer quote on replacement for a 9.4 kWh LiIon battery is $25k for the battery plus $15k labor. Comparable size battery for any other hybrid is about $5k all in.

Dr. G7

Glad you clarified. Practical solid-state battery technology for EVs is in the future. A clarification from the wiki oracle:

[begin quote] A lithium-ion battery is composed of cathode, anode, separator and electrolyte. A lithium-ion battery applied at smartphones, power tools and EVs uses liquid electrolyte solution. On the other hand, a solid-state battery uses solid electrolyte not liquid.

[end quote]

Some challenges of solid-state batteries, are defined in foreign languages (again from wiki



“more in the context/genre of "Solid State Electronics" which have few if any moving parts and either work or they do not work…”

Other than the latter (and either work or they do not work) the former (Solid State Electronics" which have few if any moving parts) is kinda - generally is true.