Spyder Modifications
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This concern about increasing understeer concerns me.. I wanted slightly wider for looks, but at expense of handling.. although I do wish the car were a little more planted at times.. I want that at all four corners, not just the rear. Would this increase in understeer be noticeable at "sane" road speeds or just on track?
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This concern about increasing understeer concerns me.. I wanted slightly wider for looks, but at expense of handling.. although I do wish the car were a little more planted at times.. I want that at all four corners, not just the rear. Would this increase in understeer be noticeable at "sane" road speeds or just on track?
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I am curious but for those who are looking for more of a planted feel and more grip from the car in general, have you looked in to getting a more aggressive alignment done on the car? As in more camber? I am pretty much at max negative camber in the front which is around 1.4 and that definitely helped with understeer a lot. Did 2 track days on the stock Pirelli tires and came away very impressed. Onboard G meter showed peaks of 1.4g lateral. I think only way I can get more is if I go with grippier rubber all around like Sport Cup 2s.
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I am curious but for those who are looking for more of a planted feel and more grip from the car in general, have you looked in to getting a more aggressive alignment done on the car? As in more camber? I am pretty much at max negative camber in the front which is around 1.4 and that definitely helped with understeer a lot. Did 2 track days on the stock Pirelli tires and came away very impressed. Onboard G meter showed peaks of 1.4g lateral. I think only way I can get more is if I go with grippier rubber all around like Sport Cup 2s.
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I have the N0 Pirelli tires and do not like them. Sport Cup 2 is not available in OEM size. I am waiting for the new Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S, suppose to be available in March in OEM size.
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But that is the only tire I have experienced in this car. If I drove another Spyder shod with the Michelin Supersports that I had on my M3 then maybe it would perform better I dunno. All I know is aggressive alignment plus right temps and this car has staggering grip. And once the grip is gone the car does go in to mild understeer to all wheel drifts which gets more exciting
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Agreed that Sport Cup 2 is not available in OEM size but I am intending on going wider anyway to accommodate Sport Cup 2 rubber. I gotta keep surprising my GT3 buddies after all and I have just about hit the limit of what the car and tires currently would do in the turns. I have about 4200 miles on the car and 2 track days and quite a few mountain runs. Wear has been remarkably good!
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I have same concerns. My Spyder has 15000 miles on N1 Pirelli's . They have worked for me but spirited driving only and no track days. I am anxious for the Pilot Sport 4's to become available and intend to go that route in OEM size.
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Originally Posted by RWR
I have same concerns. My Spyder has 15000 miles on N1 Pirelli's . They have worked for me but spirited driving only and no track days. I am anxious for the Pilot Sport 4's to become available and intend to go that route in OEM size.
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Small update on the tire change.
I went with a small width increase to
245/35-20 front
285/35/20 rear
Michelin pilot Super Sport
This keeps the proportion of front to rear diameter the same at 1.039, and increases front and rear approx 0.3 inch diameter.
The end result visually seems to be that the wheel wells fill out nicely, and negate the need of spacers in my opinion.
I was very surprised about how far off the alignment was, especially the toe.. as carefully as I maneuver around potholes, norcal and San Francisco roads especially are unforgiving.
Need to redo the autodip on the wheels as expected after tire change, it all peels off. I might stay with bronze, or go black.. or really go nuts and do RS-style red wheels to match the brakes.
I like it.. now I'm going to drive it
I went with a small width increase to
245/35-20 front
285/35/20 rear
Michelin pilot Super Sport
This keeps the proportion of front to rear diameter the same at 1.039, and increases front and rear approx 0.3 inch diameter.
The end result visually seems to be that the wheel wells fill out nicely, and negate the need of spacers in my opinion.
I was very surprised about how far off the alignment was, especially the toe.. as carefully as I maneuver around potholes, norcal and San Francisco roads especially are unforgiving.
Need to redo the autodip on the wheels as expected after tire change, it all peels off. I might stay with bronze, or go black.. or really go nuts and do RS-style red wheels to match the brakes.
I like it.. now I'm going to drive it