Notices
997 GT2/GT3 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Porsche North Houston

Cup electric PS pump conversion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-17-2017 | 10:42 AM
  #16  
JarmoL's Avatar
JarmoL
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 383
Likes: 11
From: Finland
Default

Do these electric pumps make a lot of noise? Can you hear it while driving on street?
Looks very tidy mounted beside the battery!
Old 10-17-2017 | 10:50 AM
  #17  
CRex's Avatar
CRex
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,581
Likes: 387
From: Driver's Seat
Default

It's a good way to reduce parasitic power loss on your engine belt... how are you powering this pump though? In the cup this pump drew so much current that I think it has its own fuse...
Old 10-17-2017 | 03:05 PM
  #18  
T10Chris's Avatar
T10Chris
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 224
From: Bellevue, WA
Default

Perfect timing... I'm doing this mod as well. I've got the pump as well as the Rebel fittings for the PS rack.

I've been trying to come up with a good mounting solution myself. Interested in seeing how yours goes
Old 10-17-2017 | 03:35 PM
  #19  
bmwtye's Avatar
bmwtye
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,744
Likes: 137
From: San Francisco
Default

Originally Posted by CRex
It's a good way to reduce parasitic power loss on your engine belt... how are you powering this pump though? In the cup this pump drew so much current that I think it has its own fuse...
It has an inline 80amp fuse so you wire it directly to the battery.
Old 10-17-2017 | 04:52 PM
  #20  
ngng's Avatar
ngng
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 312
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by JarmoL
Do these electric pumps make a lot of noise? Can you hear it while driving on street?
Looks very tidy mounted beside the battery!
it sounds like a jet engine
Old 10-17-2017 | 05:06 PM
  #21  
bmwtye's Avatar
bmwtye
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,744
Likes: 137
From: San Francisco
Default

Originally Posted by JarmoL
Do these electric pumps make a lot of noise? Can you hear it while driving on street?
Looks very tidy mounted beside the battery!
Old 10-18-2017 | 01:22 AM
  #22  
JarmoL's Avatar
JarmoL
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 383
Likes: 11
From: Finland
Default

Thanks! That is some noise then..
Old 10-18-2017 | 03:53 PM
  #23  
pete95zhn's Avatar
pete95zhn
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 110
From: fortistuning.fi
Default

Good info, thanks! Makes me think about future mods.

​​​How about belt length and rollers required after PS pump removal?
Old 10-18-2017 | 05:37 PM
  #24  
Scott.'s Avatar
Scott.
Pro
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 507
Likes: 61
From: WA
Default

Originally Posted by T10Chris
Perfect timing... I'm doing this mod as well. I've got the pump as well as the Rebel fittings for the PS rack.

I've been trying to come up with a good mounting solution myself. Interested in seeing how yours goes
Since you also have a 996 and close by, here's my custom Rothsport mount for the electric PS. I'm sure they could make more if you convince Jeff.

Old 10-18-2017 | 07:38 PM
  #25  
Tom@TPC Racing's Avatar
Tom@TPC Racing
Premium Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,437
Likes: 998
From: Jessup, MD
Default

OP,

Nice job on the modeling of the bracket.

Just for reference, I got a set of the Rebel brand aluminum fittings on ebay, the measurements are spot on. Pretty legit for under 100 bucks!




Low pressure fitting.



High pressure fitting.



The only functional difference is on the high pressure fitting the OEM/Cup version has a built in screen. The screen won't change the performance. Should the pump fails and break into pieces the screen will protect the rack to some degree but its pretty unlikely that'll happen so I don't having the screen is critical. One could install an inline filter if so desires, but again I don't think its necessary. If I had to do my car again I wouldn't hesitate to use these fittings. I would get new OEM sealing rings though.

I am sure the HRG brand measures equally well given their reputation.
__________________
PCA National Instructor

TPC Racing stats:
2023 Porsche Sprint Challenge 992 Cup Am Champion
2023 Porsche Sprint Challenge GT4 Pro-Am Team Champion
2022 Porsche Sprint Challenge 992 Cup & 991 Cup Champion
2020 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge 2nd Championship
2018 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge 2nd Championship
2016 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge Champion
2013 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge Champion
2006 Rolex-24 @ Daytona GT Champion
2004 Grand-Am SGS Class Champion






















Last edited by Tom@TPC Racing; 10-19-2017 at 10:24 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Darkstar1 (09-02-2023)
Old 10-18-2017 | 07:51 PM
  #26  
bmwtye's Avatar
bmwtye
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,744
Likes: 137
From: San Francisco
Default

Other pertinent part numbers in relation if your pump didn't come complete:

997.314.090.9A - Cap and overflow tube. (#16)
996.314.759.9B - Rubber Disk. (#4)

999.703.269.01 - Silent Block 25x15/M 6 (#3)

999.073.259.09 - Screw m6x8. (#2)


Old 10-18-2017 | 08:50 PM
  #27  
ngng's Avatar
ngng
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 312
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Tom-TPC Racing
OP,

Nice job on the modeling of the bracket.

Just for reference, I got a set of the Rebel Racing brand aluminum fittings on ebay, the measurements are spot on. Totally legit for under 100 bucks!


The only functional difference is on the high pressure fitting the OEM/Cup version has a built in screen. The screen won't change the performance. Should the pump fails and break into pieces the screen will protect the rack to some degree but its pretty unlikely that'll happen so I don't having the screen is critical. One could install an inline filter if so desires, but again I don't think its necessary. If I had to do my car again I wouldn't hesitate to use these fittings. I would get new OEM sealing rings though.

I am sure the HRG brand measures equally well given their reputation.
I've got a set of HRG coming as well, I will take measurements but I'm sure they're fine. I paid $90 to HRG and he included O rings and shipping! I will likely model a set myself and machine it out of 6061.

It's pretty cool we can use these fittings and bypass the Cup lines entirely!

Tom- do you have any thoughts on the Cup idler pulley with a bracket vs just replacing the belt with something smaller?
Old 10-18-2017 | 08:54 PM
  #28  
ngng's Avatar
ngng
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 312
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by bmwtye
Other pertinent part numbers in relation if your pump didn't come complete:

997.314.090.9A - Cap and overflow tube. (#16)
996.314.759.9B - Rubber Disk. (#4)

999.703.269.01 - Silent Block 25x15/M 6 (#3)

999.073.259.09 - Screw m6x8. (#2)
I don't have the cap with overflow. Necessary? Or is it gonna **** all over my floor?
Old 10-18-2017 | 09:02 PM
  #29  
ngng's Avatar
ngng
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 312
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Scawt
Since you also have a 996 and close by, here's my custom Rothsport mount for the electric PS. I'm sure they could make more if you convince Jeff.

so I'm seeing lots of round bases that hold the PS unit. is this really necessary? the 3 posts that hold the PS pump should be enough, no?
Old 10-19-2017 | 02:37 AM
  #30  
ngng's Avatar
ngng
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 312
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

started modeling the fitting based off of -6 fitting and the measurements tom provided. will double check with a caliper and mic once they arrive

Name:  WINQPPN.png
Views: 314
Size:  108.9 KB

Name:  ePA8pOF.png
Views: 319
Size:  76.7 KB


Quick Reply: Cup electric PS pump conversion



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:00 PM.