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Old 03-30-2017, 04:39 PM
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonnen Porsche
I cannot give out our actual numbers but suffice it to say I received less than half of what I thought we may get this year... I am not sure if they are ramping up production later....I certainly hope so as we will have 30+ folks here without a car.
Long shot......but dying to know without bugging my dealer again so soon. Do you have insight if allocations have dropped for Canada?
Old 03-30-2017, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonnen Porsche
I cannot give out our actual numbers but suffice it to say I received less than half of what I thought we may get this year... I am not sure if they are ramping up production later....I certainly hope so as we will have 30+ folks here without a car.
Trying to understand the process better, so you know your number for the remainder of 2017 and month available?
Old 03-30-2017, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SToronto
Trying to understand the process better, so you know your number for the remainder of 2017 and month available?
I have received my calendar year 2017 allocations today through December builds. Disappointing is an understatement. Again I do not know the plans for January on next year which I hope will be 3 times this number....but I will not hold my breathe for that. Hopefully Porsche will ramp up production next year and get us a ton more cars as we have a serious demand for this model.
Old 03-30-2017, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SToronto
Long shot......but dying to know without bugging my dealer again so soon. Do you have insight if allocations have dropped for Canada?
No idea on Canada...sorry...
Old 03-30-2017, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonnen Porsche
I cannot give out our actual numbers but suffice it to say I received less than half of what I thought we may get this year... I am not sure if they are ramping up production later....I certainly hope so as we will have 30+ folks here without a car.
Sorry to hear this. Did PAG give any insight as to why? Future production schedule? Allocations for 2018? 3 year run to make the total units?
Old 03-30-2017, 05:02 PM
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OK, what I hear is that everybody expects more allocations based on perceived demand. But so far no insight how these allocations compare to the round of 991.1 GT3s over the same time span. Is it more or less?
Old 03-30-2017, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoM4
Due to these low rates, businesses can undertake more capital expenditures... expanding facilities, machinery, factories, etc... all of which create more jobs.
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Except that exactly NOT what has been happening. Companies haven't been investing. They've been using all that borrowing to buyback stock, to pump up the stock price for investors (and Management's stock options - surprise?) rather than invest in new productive capacity. It's why job growth (and corporate profit growth) has lagged asset value inflation by a wide margin since the financial crisis.

Rut roh...
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Old 03-30-2017, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonnen Porsche
I have received my calendar year 2017 allocations today through December builds. Disappointing is an understatement. Again I do not know the plans for January on next year which I hope will be 3 times this number....but I will not hold my breathe for that. Hopefully Porsche will ramp up production next year and get us a ton more cars as we have a serious demand for this model.
Brett, my cleaning lady told me that Porsche has been behind in production of all new products over the last year, particularly the new Pano. Is that your understanding? Hopefully it just means 2018's gonna see a lot of cars.
Old 03-30-2017, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
Sorry to hear this. Did PAG give any insight as to why? Future production schedule? Allocations for 2018? 3 year run to make the total units?
4000 gt cars per year
Starting in June / July
Gives 2000 for 2017

25% US is 500 cars in 2017 for the US

If they produce the GT2RS this year already then even less

2018
4000 - 500 gt2 - 1000 rs (second half of 2018)

Gives you 2500 global gt3
650 for the US in 2018

In total 1150 for the whole gt3 run in the us
No production in 2019

If the share of the US is 30% instead of 25%

You get roughly 1500 gt3 us total
Old 03-30-2017, 05:33 PM
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Back in 2007 era, you could get a loan (auto or home) if you could fog a mirror. That isn't the case today, with banks tightening up with larger downs and higher credit. I do not think a chart foretells tomorrow, as the circumstance of then and now are not analogous.

The stock market is running hot, however, in part because so many "investors" don't know a P/E ratio from a gym class.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Except that exactly NOT what has been happening. Companies haven't been investing. They've been using all that borrowing to buyback stock, to pump up the stock price for investors (and Management's stock options - surprise?) rather than invest in new productive capacity. It's why job growth (and corporate profit growth) has lagged asset value inflation by a wide margin since the financial crisis.

Rut roh...
LOL... you are stepping way over your bounds of economic knowledge buddy. You continue to post graphs and spew words you don't know the meaning of or underlying cause.

I'd rather not annoy everyone else with trying to teach you so please PM me with any meaningful questions you have. What you've posted doesn't even trace back to your original argument, btw.
Old 03-30-2017, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Superfans
As the 991.2 GT3 RS is coming, anyone who ordered the 991.2 GT3 is considering to switch their orders to the new RS?
its not that easy.
1. who has guaranteed 991.2GT3 allocation beside 918 owners. no one.
2. it's not like you can switch if you wanted to. there are many ppl who will bay 80-100k over for an RS without blinking an eye. what makes you think you will get an RS.

i have no GT3 and no RS allocation.
Old 03-30-2017, 05:50 PM
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How about you guys take the OT crap to another forum.. Lets get this back on topic here!

@ Sonnen Porsche -maybe you need to sell more 911's?
Old 03-30-2017, 06:05 PM
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Got an email today from a dealer saying that allocations are coming. Mark up will be 25K...

No thank you.


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