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If the car isn't fun to you anymore, then sell it. 100%.
-guy who understands
This.
It is insane to rebuild an m96 but it's within character if you're crazy for the car.
Maybe look at an mk2 996 is my only counter point. I use the cupholders on trips, decent glovebox, storage cubby, it's a relatively smooth driver and I love mine-problems and all.
Good luck & don't forget to post a pic of your Ferrari!
My advice would be to wait until tax refund season to list it for sale - so late February. You won't have any trouble getting your money out of it as I recall that you bought it right.
I'll give you a safety net of $16,000 on it. If you can't sell it for that, give me a call and I'll fly down and drive it back home.
Being on the side of this where I am experiencing catastrophic failure syndrome in the form of a cracked head, And realizing the other modes of failure i haven't addressed my confidence may be low in long term reliably. BUT! I cannot replace it for what I paid, or invested. Any car can collapse mechanically at any given time so the 996 is no anomaly. These are machines.
sounds like you should sell, if it isn't fun then it's a waste. the people that sell before a problem kind of tickle me, I wish I could say mine is running great, and I get jelly when I see the rest of you out there driving around...
Oh, I almost forgot - Doc, you are a 928 man. Have I got a deal for you . . . '87 S4 automatic, 82k miles, TB/WP done 200 miles ago. Will trade you even up - meet you in OKC to swap titles. Just give me a date. Dead serious.
Any car can collapse mechanically at any given time so the 996 is no anomaly. These are machines.
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Well, it's a matter of how, and how often, and how catastrophic. All cars do fail. But the value of the 996 is testament to the reliability issues. So - I have to say in that respect the 996 is the anomaly or outlier in the market. I had a cracked head on a little Geo a few years ago. Popped it off, popped a new one on there, hooked all the stuff up and off I went. 996 - catastrophic failure, end of engine, end of car.
Well, it's a matter of how, and how often, and how catastrophic. All cars do fail. But the value of the 996 is testament to the reliability issues. So - I have to say in that respect the 996 is the anomaly or outlier in the market. I had a cracked head on a little Geo a few years ago. Popped it off, popped a new one on there, hooked all the stuff up and off I went. 996 - catastrophic failure, end of engine, end of car.
This condition was created by and is perpetuated by Porsche. Building and selling M96 engines (or a more modern version backward compatible with the 996) at a reasonable cost would take the legs right out from under all of the 986/996 engine problems. Despite the Porsche spam they mailed me about the 996 being a classic, not having a crate engine program shows that Porsche has no genuine interest in making a long-term commitment to the 996 community.
Well, it's a matter of how, and how often, and how catastrophic. All cars do fail. But the value of the 996 is testament to the reliability issues. So - I have to say in that respect the 996 is the anomaly or outlier in the market. I had a cracked head on a little Geo a few years ago. Popped it off, popped a new one on there, hooked all the stuff up and off I went. 996 - catastrophic failure, end of engine, end of car.
yeah. these guys must have owned some really horrid cars when it came to reliability if the 996 is good in their books. I've never owned a car that needed this kind of work at 100k km. my lexus hit the 250k mark, it did need a new piston at 170k km and that was done for under $2600. my van will be hitting 150k km soon? & I'll be doing the front brakes on it this weekend. none needed anywhere near the repairs my porsche has needed. even my heavily modded subaru was much more reliable than my 996.
This condition was created by and is perpetuated by Porsche. Building and selling M96 engines (or a more modern version backward compatible with the 996) at a reasonable cost would take the legs right out from under all of the 986/996 engine problems. Despite the Porsche spam they mailed me about the 996 being a classic, not having a crate engine program shows that Porsche has no genuine interest in making a long-term commitment to the 996 community.
Exactly. If there was an engine rebuild, exchange, upgrade path for the base engine from Porsche, I'd prolly hang around and tough it out. From the mfg side, there is a certain demented logic in letting the M96 go EOL. If it gets that hard to support, there is a certain Porsche demographic that will just Uber down to the P-dealer and write another big fat check. Me? I guess it seems like I'm taking the mfg's 'eff-uuu' attitude as not wanting to get the **** probe anymore. 'Oh, sorry John, but that model is not supported at all anymore. So, come over here and check out this new model!' Stuff that.
yeah. these guys must have owned some really horrid cars when it came to reliability if the 996 is good in their books. I've never owned a car that needed this kind of work at 100k km. my lexus hit the 250k mark, it did need a new piston at 170k km and that was done for under $2600. my van will be hitting 150k km soon? & I'll be doing the front brakes on it this weekend. none needed anywhere near the repairs my porsche has needed. even my heavily modded subaru was much more reliable than my 996.
I think the 996 and m96 are strong overall. It's just that if you are an unlucky one it goes really bad when it goes.
Ours 01 has given us its entire life and the only thing that really bugs me about repairs over it's life is having to replace the 2nd gear synchro. That was painful, though I could have probably put it off a few more years if I had recognized the issue sooner and done the dtent fix.
I catch myself every now and again letting the internet paranoia claw in and I start to freak out over every little thing, but it keeps coming back healthy and fine.
Sure Porsche could have done better and there are more reliable cars out there, but they also aren't the time bombs that the Internet would lead one to believe.
Doc, good luck to you either way. Along the lines of KC's advise, I'd suggest holding onto it for a bit, but I would say until next spring. Your list of potential buyers is going down daily as the cold weather is creeping in (especially for a Cab). Wait until the weather starts to turn and you'll have a better pool of buyers. You might also get it out some more and decide it's not so bad after all