Any luck beating speeding tickets?
10-17-2008, 10:39 AM
#32
Race Car
Thread Starter
Thanks for your input guys.
Not ilegal to pass ona double? I know a single is pass with caution.
What about speeding while passing? If I would have made a 'granny" pass, I would have been passing going up a hill.
I guess it is up to the cop's discretion.
Not ilegal to pass ona double? I know a single is pass with caution.
What about speeding while passing? If I would have made a 'granny" pass, I would have been passing going up a hill.
I guess it is up to the cop's discretion.
10-17-2008, 01:08 PM
#33
Team Owner
okay a couple of basic points here ( excuse the pun )
1. Points mean nothing anymore ( up to a point ) . Insurance companies look at number of minor convictions and number of major convictions. Reducing to get rid of points is a wasted effort unless it is for misnistry reasons , not insurance reasons
2. Seeing the prosecutor before trial IS EFFECTIVE. I have had reductions doing this over 80% of the time. They can reduce the dollar value on the ticket substantially. they can reduce the conviction also if you plead gulity to a lesser charge. The main reson for doing this should be for money however not points, unless of course you are trying to reduce a dnagerous driving charge, but good luck with that one.
3. tickets can stay on your transcript up to 7 years. Does not mean it is used but they are there, i have seen my transcript and there were tickets on there I completely forgot about.
4. The Ministry of transport looks back 2 years.
5. Most insurace look back 36 months for tickets , and 5-7 years for at fault accidents depending on the insurance company.
The Ministry as stated will watch you for 2 years , at 9 points you may have to go for an interview.
6. The information does not go on your record until you are convicted, but it is backdated to the date of offense, so do the math, it pays to delay as long as possible in case you get another and need to switch insurance FAST before conviction.
a case in point :
a few ( ahem ) years ago I had 3 tickets and no one would insure me ( all minor with no points ) I was insured under my fleet policy at work but i wanted my own car. I was between Porsches at the time and wated to insure an old Audi i bought.
Wouldn't you know it I got a fourth ticket.
I delayed and delayed the courts on this ticket, the first one came off, I was able to get insurance with now only 2 tickets, once i got the insurance about a week later ( this was 6 months after the I actually got the ticket ) i was convicted but I already had insurance and was okay .
I have since cleaned up my act obviously but this is just an example of how you have to manipulate the sytem to your benefit.
1. Points mean nothing anymore ( up to a point ) . Insurance companies look at number of minor convictions and number of major convictions. Reducing to get rid of points is a wasted effort unless it is for misnistry reasons , not insurance reasons
2. Seeing the prosecutor before trial IS EFFECTIVE. I have had reductions doing this over 80% of the time. They can reduce the dollar value on the ticket substantially. they can reduce the conviction also if you plead gulity to a lesser charge. The main reson for doing this should be for money however not points, unless of course you are trying to reduce a dnagerous driving charge, but good luck with that one.
3. tickets can stay on your transcript up to 7 years. Does not mean it is used but they are there, i have seen my transcript and there were tickets on there I completely forgot about.
4. The Ministry of transport looks back 2 years.
5. Most insurace look back 36 months for tickets , and 5-7 years for at fault accidents depending on the insurance company.
The Ministry as stated will watch you for 2 years , at 9 points you may have to go for an interview.
6. The information does not go on your record until you are convicted, but it is backdated to the date of offense, so do the math, it pays to delay as long as possible in case you get another and need to switch insurance FAST before conviction.
a case in point :
a few ( ahem ) years ago I had 3 tickets and no one would insure me ( all minor with no points ) I was insured under my fleet policy at work but i wanted my own car. I was between Porsches at the time and wated to insure an old Audi i bought.
Wouldn't you know it I got a fourth ticket.
I delayed and delayed the courts on this ticket, the first one came off, I was able to get insurance with now only 2 tickets, once i got the insurance about a week later ( this was 6 months after the I actually got the ticket ) i was convicted but I already had insurance and was okay .
I have since cleaned up my act obviously but this is just an example of how you have to manipulate the sytem to your benefit.
10-17-2008, 04:23 PM
#34
Drifting
okay a couple of basic points here ( excuse the pun )
1. Points mean nothing anymore ( up to a point ) . Insurance companies look at number of minor convictions and number of major convictions. Reducing to get rid of points is a wasted effort unless it is for misnistry reasons , not insurance reasons
2. Seeing the prosecutor before trial IS EFFECTIVE. I have had reductions doing this over 80% of the time. They can reduce the dollar value on the ticket substantially. they can reduce the conviction also if you plead gulity to a lesser charge. The main reson for doing this should be for money however not points, unless of course you are trying to reduce a dnagerous driving charge, but good luck with that one.
3. tickets can stay on your transcript up to 7 years. Does not mean it is used but they are there, i have seen my transcript and there were tickets on there I completely forgot about.
4. The Ministry of transport looks back 2 years.
5. Most insurace look back 36 months for tickets , and 5-7 years for at fault accidents depending on the insurance company.
The Ministry as stated will watch you for 2 years , at 9 points you may have to go for an interview.
6. The information does not go on your record until you are convicted, but it is backdated to the date of offense, so do the math, it pays to delay as long as possible in case you get another and need to switch insurance FAST before conviction.
a case in point :
a few ( ahem ) years ago I had 3 tickets and no one would insure me ( all minor with no points ) I was insured under my fleet policy at work but i wanted my own car. I was between Porsches at the time and wated to insure an old Audi i bought.
Wouldn't you know it I got a fourth ticket.
I delayed and delayed the courts on this ticket, the first one came off, I was able to get insurance with now only 2 tickets, once i got the insurance about a week later ( this was 6 months after the I actually got the ticket ) i was convicted but I already had insurance and was okay .
I have since cleaned up my act obviously but this is just an example of how you have to manipulate the sytem to your benefit.
1. Points mean nothing anymore ( up to a point ) . Insurance companies look at number of minor convictions and number of major convictions. Reducing to get rid of points is a wasted effort unless it is for misnistry reasons , not insurance reasons
2. Seeing the prosecutor before trial IS EFFECTIVE. I have had reductions doing this over 80% of the time. They can reduce the dollar value on the ticket substantially. they can reduce the conviction also if you plead gulity to a lesser charge. The main reson for doing this should be for money however not points, unless of course you are trying to reduce a dnagerous driving charge, but good luck with that one.
3. tickets can stay on your transcript up to 7 years. Does not mean it is used but they are there, i have seen my transcript and there were tickets on there I completely forgot about.
4. The Ministry of transport looks back 2 years.
5. Most insurace look back 36 months for tickets , and 5-7 years for at fault accidents depending on the insurance company.
The Ministry as stated will watch you for 2 years , at 9 points you may have to go for an interview.
6. The information does not go on your record until you are convicted, but it is backdated to the date of offense, so do the math, it pays to delay as long as possible in case you get another and need to switch insurance FAST before conviction.
a case in point :
a few ( ahem ) years ago I had 3 tickets and no one would insure me ( all minor with no points ) I was insured under my fleet policy at work but i wanted my own car. I was between Porsches at the time and wated to insure an old Audi i bought.
Wouldn't you know it I got a fourth ticket.
I delayed and delayed the courts on this ticket, the first one came off, I was able to get insurance with now only 2 tickets, once i got the insurance about a week later ( this was 6 months after the I actually got the ticket ) i was convicted but I already had insurance and was okay .
I have since cleaned up my act obviously but this is just an example of how you have to manipulate the sytem to your benefit.
Delay, delay, delay the conviction = $$$ saved on insurance
10-18-2008, 05:20 PM
#35
Race Car
Thread Starter
11-12-2008, 01:01 PM
#36
Race Car
Thread Starter
Update
Hey All,
Met with the prosecutor this morning. Offered to go from 30 over / $220 to 19 over / $40. Good deal if that is what I was after.
They will mail me a court date to fight it.
Rod
Met with the prosecutor this morning. Offered to go from 30 over / $220 to 19 over / $40. Good deal if that is what I was after.
They will mail me a court date to fight it.
Rod
11-12-2008, 02:49 PM
#37
Rennlist Member
it is great to hear some good news for someone...lots of bad vibes going around (economy, weather, speeding tix etc)
who is Jack? don't ask me why I need to know (got caught 74 in a 50, lowered to 60 in a 50)
11-12-2008, 03:27 PM
#40
Three Wheelin'
At least now you have your worst case scenario. Have your ordered/received disclosure yet. If you don't get it, that will be one avenue for getting the charge dropped altogether.
11-12-2008, 07:59 PM
#42
Rennlist Member
so now 2 pending
I hate Ontario traffic law enforcement...and the minivans just keep speeding through all the stop signs in my residential area at after school. but going 75 on Lawrence avenue, our tax dollars at work!
11-13-2008, 02:52 PM
#43
Race Car
Thread Starter
11-13-2008, 03:01 PM
#44
Rennlist Member
11-13-2008, 03:39 PM
#45
Race Car
Thread Starter