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Old 03-19-2023 | 03:49 PM
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And it cost how much out the door and EV owners are worried about what it costs to run? Really...LOL. And why only keep it two years?

I am assuming people drive these cars to save the world, so would it not be prudent to save as much energy as possible. So why would anyone need a Performance? When I drove an EV, it sounded like a slot car or a sewing machine. No thanks!
I don't think the majority buy EVs to "save the world". I didn't it. It's a better driving car than comparably priced crossovers and free to run. I've enjoyed my time with it but I'd like another Stelvio Q before I can't get that anymore...and we have a Rivian R1S due sometime before never...

Also, two years is one of the longest stretches I've kept anything other than our 2012 Range Rover Supercharged...how THAT's a car!

Old 03-19-2023 | 09:04 PM
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I don't think the majority buy EVs to "save the world". I didn't it. It's a better driving car than comparably priced crossovers and free to run. I've enjoyed my time with it but I'd like another Stelvio Q before I can't get that anymore...and we have a Rivian R1S due sometime before never...

Also, two years is one of the longest stretches I've kept anything other than our 2012 Range Rover Supercharged...how THAT's a car!
a good friend of mine does about 40-50k a year of driving. Went from a 328d wagon to a Model Y and won’t be going back to ICE. He’s kept track of gas costs , then diesel costs and now his charging (Tesla wall box) it’s pennies to operate. Teslas still have excellent highway efficiency compared to other EVs

Yea there is a noticeable range drop in winter when it’s really really cold but avg temps it’s pretty manageable. My commute is around 35km a day, my wife’s is about the same or lower.

I think the performance aspect is slowly mellowing out for normal cars. The wacky 0-100 times aren’t really needed for most people when you think about it. A normal car in the 7.5-8s range is fine. What worries me are the giant EV pick ups weighing 8000lbs with 0-100 in 5s… that’s lots of kinetic energy..

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Old 03-20-2023 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LastMezger
I don't think the majority buy EVs to "save the world". I didn't.
Ar least you are honest about it. Even though there are those that jumped on the bandwagon thinking they are saving the planet, in most cases people buy them for another reason. The following pretty well sums up one of many cases. I was in the parking lot of my local liquor store and started a chat with a Tesla owner. I was in my non-Porsche daily driver, so he did not know I owned one. In his excitement, off he goes on how much faster his Tesla is than a Porsche. I chuckled and said, you mean quicker (to X speed) but not faster. So now you know why he bought it, at least one of the reasons. The poor guy with his fragile ego was suffering from short pecker syndrome. I do not race to the next red light. After being on the track, driving on the street is hum-drum.

I might buy an EV one day as a daily driver when it makes financial and practical sense. Right now for me and probably not for 10 years till things improve, it doesn't.
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Is there one reasonably priced EV that anyone can say has nice styling? That's part of my problem with them. Why do they have to make them look so crappy? What is this, modern car design? Awful IMHO.
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You mean the Prius doesn't look nice....
Old 03-21-2023 | 12:36 AM
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You mean the Prius doesn't look nice....
I would almost be willing to drive a diesel truck so I could roll coal on those POS.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 12:53 AM
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Is there one reasonably priced EV that anyone can say has nice styling? That's part of my problem with them. Why do they have to make them look so crappy? What is this, modern car design? Awful IMHO.
I like the styling of our Model Y Performance. Chunky and stanced. It's also very reductionist...which I find calming.

Cybertruck is growing on me. It's just mental.

And I like the Rivian R1S...which I why I ordered one.

What's great is that they all look NEW.
Old 03-21-2023 | 02:13 AM
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I’ve owned cheaper EVs (Fiat 500e and now eGolf) for many years and if you stick with the cheap ones, they do make a TON of financial sense. Use the subsidies to get their price down to the same as their ICE counterpart, drive the crap out of them and save thousands per year in gas and hundreds in maintenance.

When I’ve got some around town errand to do or getting from A to B, it’s almost always the electric car. They’re free to run so if the subsidies get it cheap enough, there’s no reason not to get one. That said. I’m happy driving an eGolf around while my 570S is in the garage.

They make financial sense if youre happy with the lower cost ones.
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Originally Posted by red996
I would almost be willing to drive a diesel truck so I could roll coal on those POS.
new Prius looks great but it will
be impossible to get
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Old 03-21-2023 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregster
new Prius looks great but it will
be impossible to get
a wait list for a Prius? The world really is coming to an end.
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Old 03-21-2023 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregster
new Prius looks great but it will
be impossible to get
You're right - hard to believe, but true, it's a good looking car. I can't believe I'm writing this!

Cheers

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Old 03-22-2023 | 01:15 AM
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After a 14 month wait at my local dealership (which was getting very few allocations) look what I found on trader dot ca!


'23 BMW i4m50


Picking it up on Saturday.... rainy/possible snow mix and a high of 6, with Summer Performance tires.... should be fun .....
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Old 03-22-2023 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Lane
You're right - hard to believe, but true, it's a good looking car. I can't believe I'm writing this!

Cheers

Matt
Are you guys OK , Greg , Matt ???

Cheers
Phil

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Old 03-22-2023 | 03:21 PM
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The new Prius is at least as good looking as the Purosangue!

Old 03-22-2023 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wildcat077
Are you guys OK , Greg , Matt ???

Cheers
Phil
I’m not sure I’d buy one but it’s nice the new one. Im not a fan of hybrids… That being said I would get another BEV in a heartbeat


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