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let me try this again, don't paste an image into the message!
Toronto's full of bad drivers and inattentive pedestrians.... people walking across an intersection with their face glued to their phone, not even half way through and the light's red, meanwhile somebody trying to make a left quickly as the light changed and barely seeing the pedestrian.... pedestrian flips the bird at the driver thinking they got the right away.... drivers glued to their phone while driving... it's happening all the time.
In Toronto the data on incidents involving pedestrians (or anything) is all available here:
Pedestrian collisions involve any person that is not riding in a vehicle or on a bicycle 2005-2016 in Toronto:
You are technically right, which of course is the best kind of right, but it is hard to accept that we are killing 50% more people now than we were 15 years ago. Let's not get our panties in a knot over speeding in high risk zones. If they put photo radar on 400 series highways the discussion would be different.
Fatalities 1996-2015 Nationally:
Now, granted these are apples and oranges. The top is total fatalities, and the bottom is fatality per 10,000 motor vehicles registered. But you put them together and you have some indication that we aren't doing a great job inside the municipality of Toronto with preventing pedestrian deaths.
What is your definition of high risk area? Schools? Ok, I agree with that but outside of school hours, why is there a need to artificially lower the speed limit? It turns law abiding citizens into criminals. Photo radar will be on all the time, day and night.
Fatality rates are on the decline and have been for a very long time. Why is the public perception seems to be that a vehicle is at fault when a pedestrian or cyclist gets hit or dies? Most of the times it isn't. How about enforcing the law and ticketing pedestrians too. The police doesn't want to bother with it and then we end up with jaywalkers getting killed because they choose to bake the law. The Vision Zero that TO and the rest of the municipalities are trying to implement is not possible when pedestrians/cyclist are allowed to whatever they feel like doing.
Why is the public perception seems to be that a vehicle is at fault when a pedestrian or cyclist gets hit or dies? Most of the times it isn't.
I am not sure where you get this from. I work in the insurance industry and can tell you that this isn't true. When I worked for the MTO it wasn't true.
I am not sure where you get this from. I work in the insurance industry and can tell you that this isn't true. When I worked for the MTO it wasn't true.
That is main argument and the reason the super low speed limits are going in. The blame is on the cars not the pedestrians that do whatever they feel like.
I think photo radar and red light cameras have their place, but unfortunately that type of enforcement has displaced other more worthy forms of enforcement.
we have had Photo Radar back home in Kuwait and Dubai for over 20 years now
last time i was in Dubai in 2018 i accumulated $600+ in fines in one evening my first day there, got a text on my phone with the fines
I didnt even know it was me getting flashed lol i was driving i like i was in Toronto looool
09-12-2019, 07:07 PM
