Here comes the photo radar...Merry Xmas.
08-29-2019, 11:47 AM
#31
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They had to put speed bumps on my street to prevent people from bombing through at 60.
"There has been a huge drop in the number of kids who walk or bike to school regularly. According to Active Healthy Kids Canada, 58 per cent of parents walked to school when they were young, only 28 per cent of their children do today. Also, recent survey by Parachute Canada found that the majority of parents (75%) prevent their kids from walking or cycling to school due to fears over speeding cars and traffic."
https://ca.care.com/articles/childre...-school-alone/
So, yeah, I am good with speed cameras in school zones, and zero tolerance. If getting caught speeding in a school zone would bother you, STOP DRIVING IN THEM. If I had my way, I would ban cars within 200m of schools, and the majority of the core (Front-->Queen, Yonge-->university).
Of course, I would also make it much more difficult to get a driver's licence. I would also raise the speed limit on 400 series highways to 130Km/h. If I could, I would put a minimum speed you can walk on the sidewalk.
"There has been a huge drop in the number of kids who walk or bike to school regularly. According to Active Healthy Kids Canada, 58 per cent of parents walked to school when they were young, only 28 per cent of their children do today. Also, recent survey by Parachute Canada found that the majority of parents (75%) prevent their kids from walking or cycling to school due to fears over speeding cars and traffic."
https://ca.care.com/articles/childre...-school-alone/
So, yeah, I am good with speed cameras in school zones, and zero tolerance. If getting caught speeding in a school zone would bother you, STOP DRIVING IN THEM. If I had my way, I would ban cars within 200m of schools, and the majority of the core (Front-->Queen, Yonge-->university).
Of course, I would also make it much more difficult to get a driver's licence. I would also raise the speed limit on 400 series highways to 130Km/h. If I could, I would put a minimum speed you can walk on the sidewalk.
08-29-2019, 11:52 AM
#32
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They had to put speed bumps on my street to prevent people from bombing through at 60.
"There has been a huge drop in the number of kids who walk or bike to school regularly. According to Active Healthy Kids Canada, 58 per cent of parents walked to school when they were young, only 28 per cent of their children do today. Also, recent survey by Parachute Canada found that the majority of parents (75%) prevent their kids from walking or cycling to school due to fears over speeding cars and traffic."
https://ca.care.com/articles/childre...-school-alone/
So, yeah, I am good with speed cameras in school zones, and zero tolerance. If getting caught speeding in a school zone would bother you, STOP DRIVING IN THEM. If I had my way, I would ban cars within 200m of schools, and the majority of the core (Front-->Queen, Yonge-->university).
Of course, I would also make it much more difficult to get a driver's licence. I would also raise the speed limit on 400 series highways to 130Km/h. If I could, I would put a minimum speed you can walk on the sidewalk.
"There has been a huge drop in the number of kids who walk or bike to school regularly. According to Active Healthy Kids Canada, 58 per cent of parents walked to school when they were young, only 28 per cent of their children do today. Also, recent survey by Parachute Canada found that the majority of parents (75%) prevent their kids from walking or cycling to school due to fears over speeding cars and traffic."
https://ca.care.com/articles/childre...-school-alone/
So, yeah, I am good with speed cameras in school zones, and zero tolerance. If getting caught speeding in a school zone would bother you, STOP DRIVING IN THEM. If I had my way, I would ban cars within 200m of schools, and the majority of the core (Front-->Queen, Yonge-->university).
Of course, I would also make it much more difficult to get a driver's licence. I would also raise the speed limit on 400 series highways to 130Km/h. If I could, I would put a minimum speed you can walk on the sidewalk.
08-29-2019, 11:56 AM
#34
*THEORETICALLY* I have no issue with this in school zones. But if speed cameras are allowed here, it's only a matter of time until they get put on major roads and highways. And that is not cool.
08-29-2019, 02:32 PM
#35
Three Wheelin'
You think you are a traffic engineering expert and think artificially lowering the speed limits works. Or using kids/dogs and an excuse for it. I do this for a living, it doesn't work. You and your neighbors will be the ones getting those tickets and then the bitchn' will start to remove them. What is your dog or kid doing in the middle of the road? The road is for vehicles not for kids and dogs to run around. That's what parks and back yards are for. Are you sure there is even a speeding problem on your street or you think there is?
08-29-2019, 02:52 PM
#36
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Easy to say, calm down but I deal with this kinds of crap all the time. The entitlement of the public is getting worse every year. They all think they know what is the best solution when they actually have no clue. I have kids, no dog. If the kids are playing upfront and they are too young to be aware of their surroundings then that's where the parents need to step it. If you allow your kid to play up front, it is your responsibility to watch after them. Trying to shift the responsibility to the public or the municipality is not right.
08-29-2019, 03:34 PM
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Easy to say, calm down but I deal with this kinds of crap all the time. The entitlement of the public is getting worse every year. They all think they know what is the best solution when they actually have no clue. I have kids, no dog. If the kids are playing upfront and they are too young to be aware of their surroundings then that's where the parents need to step it. If you allow your kid to play up front, it is your responsibility to watch after them. Trying to shift the responsibility to the public or the municipality is not right.
08-31-2019, 01:01 AM
#38
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Easy to say, calm down but I deal with this kinds of crap all the time. The entitlement of the public is getting worse every year. They all think they know what is the best solution when they actually have no clue. I have kids, no dog. If the kids are playing upfront and they are too young to be aware of their surroundings then that's where the parents need to step it. If you allow your kid to play up front, it is your responsibility to watch after them. Trying to shift the responsibility to the public or the municipality is not right.
09-02-2019, 11:25 AM
#39
Three Wheelin'
School zones / cross walks I get that but parents nowadays have their heads up their asses ...Parents think roads are play areas . You can't put one of those stupid little plastic slow down kids playing signs in the middle of the road and give every car that drives by the dirty look.
ROADS are for Cars not KIDS !! . In my neighborhood i see 4yr olds running around barefooted in the streets with no adult in sight or a nanny a hundred feet away. Everyone now thinks they are entitled to using the roads for kid play / hockey / basketball / bike riding / ebikes / rollerblading / jogging / motorized skateboards and all other conceivable activities. It's totally out of control ...
Red light cams will solve nothing except another revenue source just like those useless flashing slowdown speed limit signs everywhere what a John Tory waste of money.... It's war on the car and with cars being forced to coexist with everyone else with rights to road usage and with it unfortunately accidents will continue to increase regardless of attempts to resolve.
Everyone has right of way on the roads with cars being last but cars will always have right of weight !!
09-12-2019, 11:57 AM
#40
Three Wheelin'
In a perfect world kids and dogs stay off of roads and don't run out between parked cars. Its not a perfect world. Called " accidents" for a reason. I'm sure we will all know where the cameras are and I'm sure we won't be getting tickets for 2km over. Everyones speedo reads about 3 fast as well.
09-12-2019, 02:31 PM
#41
Odd timing
Ontario has the safest roads in the country, and our roads are safer than they've ever been (it's a fact - look up statscan data) ...but that won't stop the nanny state from inventing a "crisis" to control our lives a little more and skim a little extra from our pocket book.
09-12-2019, 03:10 PM
#42
Captain Obvious
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In a perfect world kids and dogs stay off of roads and don't run out between parked cars. Its not a perfect world. Called " accidents" for a reason. I'm sure we will all know where the cameras are and I'm sure we won't be getting tickets for 2km over. Everyones speedo reads about 3 fast as well.
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09-12-2019, 03:34 PM
#43
Three Wheelin'
^WOW.....ok you're right about everything...........unbelievable. Out.
09-12-2019, 04:03 PM
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09-12-2019, 04:41 PM
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You are technically right, which of course is the best kind of right, but it is hard to accept that we are killing 50% more people now than we were 15 years ago. Let's not get our panties in a knot over speeding in high risk zones. If they put photo radar on 400 series highways the discussion would be different.
Fatalities 1996-2015 Nationally:
Now, granted these are apples and oranges. The top is total fatalities, and the bottom is fatality per 10,000 motor vehicles registered. But you put them together and you have some indication that we aren't doing a great job inside the municipality of Toronto with preventing pedestrian deaths.