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Hi, what do you guys recommend for a user-applied ceramic coating that's compatible with a matte wrap? Appreciate any insights you might have! I've attached a photo of the wrap as it might influence your recommendation to ensure I don't lose the iridescent effect. Thanks in advance!
3M Satin Flip Psychedelic
3M Satin Flip Psychedelic
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Thanks for the question!
Vinyl satin and matte finishes can be very tricky to work on when using ceramic coatings. The coating can absorb unevenly into the vinyl (vs a gloss surface), and as a result can be more prone to creating a striped appearance from your application strokes.
If you're doing this on your own, I'd suggest using one of the easier to apply brands. GYEON coatings are relatively easy to work with, as are Kamikaze coatings.
Two tips when applying:
Vinyl satin and matte finishes can be very tricky to work on when using ceramic coatings. The coating can absorb unevenly into the vinyl (vs a gloss surface), and as a result can be more prone to creating a striped appearance from your application strokes.
If you're doing this on your own, I'd suggest using one of the easier to apply brands. GYEON coatings are relatively easy to work with, as are Kamikaze coatings.
Two tips when applying:
- Keep your applicator well loaded with product (but not dripping wet!) to avoid wiping on a very thin stroke which can flash very quickly and then be difficult to remove. Use a cross-hatch application pattern to help ensure an even distribution of product, and to even out and thin or thick areas of application. Do only 1 panel at a time max.
- Use 2 (or 3) clean and soft MF towels during removal. The first is to remove the bulk of the product, but it will load up with residue and become less effective as you get into your 2nd or 3rd panel. The second towel is to have a 'still clean' and absorbent second pass to remove whatever was left over from the dirtier first towel. And the 3rd (if you choose to use it) is the 'insurance' towel. Use a very light buffing motion just to allow the clean towel to grab any last trace of excess residue, and to even out any trace high-spots.
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#168
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Thanx!
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Yes, pics would be very helpful. If it's the textured plastic that is scuffed, then there's no remedy (other than replacement). If it's gloss carbon or something, it might respond to polishing.
Post a pic and maybe that will give us a better idea of the type of scuffing.
Thanks!
Post a pic and maybe that will give us a better idea of the type of scuffing.
Thanks!
#170
Hi. I have fairly fine scratch on my rear window. You can just catch it with your finger nail at the top but it's not what I would call 'deep'. Any recommendations on buffing or polishing that up? I have seen auto glass polishers but not sure if they are any good.
Thanks.
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Unfortunately, you don't really have any options to fix textured plastic like this. Don't use an abrasive on it. It will sand a smoother grove where you do that and will be more noticeable than these thin scratches. You could replace that piece if it bothers you too much.
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Hi. I have fairly fine scratch on my rear window. You can just catch it with your finger nail at the top but it's not what I would call 'deep'. Any recommendations on buffing or polishing that up? I have seen auto glass polishers but not sure if they are any good.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#173
I saw some videos on YouTube where they use a glass polishing kit, with a pad attached to a drill etc. to clean up scratches on glass. Can't bring myself to try it though.
I ended up using some toothpaste and a damp rag to work on it first, then used some Meguiar's Ultimate compound and polish to clean it up as they market it as non-abrasive (applied with a microfibre cloth and worked in by hand). It's still there, but significantly reduced, and no marring of the glass at all.
I also had some minor scratching on the black plastic piece behind the sunroof, and the black plastic bar above the spoiler vents, from washing, I assume. I used the same compound and polish on the spoiler plastic to test it, and got excellent results. It honestly looks like new. I'll likely put some Jet Seal on both as well.
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I ended up using some toothpaste and a damp rag to work on it first, then used some Meguiar's Ultimate compound and polish to clean it up as they market it as non-abrasive (applied with a microfibre cloth and worked in by hand). It's still there, but significantly reduced, and no marring of the glass at all.
I also had some minor scratching on the black plastic piece behind the sunroof, and the black plastic bar above the spoiler vents, from washing, I assume. I used the same compound and polish on the spoiler plastic to test it, and got excellent results. It honestly looks like new. I'll likely put some Jet Seal on both as well.
Before / After
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Do you recommend PPF protection on the headlight ?
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#175
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Hi! Wondering what you recommend for a pre-wash insect and tar removal product/technique. Preference for something a person can perform while on a road trip.
ETA: My car has Xpel and Xpel Fusion Ceramic.
ETA: My car has Xpel and Xpel Fusion Ceramic.
Last edited by OliverK68; 06-06-2022 at 02:06 PM.
#176
Ditto to OliverK68's question, except I don't have Xpel and Xpel Fusion ceramic. Just a 20+ year old clear coat and paint. Thanks in advance!
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Tar is a different issue. If it's not coming off with car wash soap or a stronger APC, you can use a product like Gyeon TAR. I prefer to squirt it on a MF cloth, and dab the area clean. I wouldn't suggest spraying or wiping the whole panel (unless the whole panel is splattered with oil/tar).
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#179
I would love to be able to bring my car to you guys for a great detail, but alas I'm in Niagara and it's a bit far.
Guards red 997 that is showing some nasty swirl marks in the paint lately. Attributed to previous owner not paying attention, and made worse by my lazy single bucket washing last year.
What's the best method DIY to resolve the problem? Products I might need? Assuming that buying a polisher is in my near future as well.
Guards red 997 that is showing some nasty swirl marks in the paint lately. Attributed to previous owner not paying attention, and made worse by my lazy single bucket washing last year.
What's the best method DIY to resolve the problem? Products I might need? Assuming that buying a polisher is in my near future as well.
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I would love to be able to bring my car to you guys for a great detail, but alas I'm in Niagara and it's a bit far.
Guards red 997 that is showing some nasty swirl marks in the paint lately. Attributed to previous owner not paying attention, and made worse by my lazy single bucket washing last year.
What's the best method DIY to resolve the problem? Products I might need? Assuming that buying a polisher is in my near future as well.
Guards red 997 that is showing some nasty swirl marks in the paint lately. Attributed to previous owner not paying attention, and made worse by my lazy single bucket washing last year.
What's the best method DIY to resolve the problem? Products I might need? Assuming that buying a polisher is in my near future as well.
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HTH!