What Loud Squealing Cold Pagid Yellow Racing Brake Pads Sound Like (Cayman)
#46
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Mark - awaiting your PM still. Mine too are the RSL29s (rear anyway - RST2 reds front) and are possibly the world's best squealers so would be a good test.
It takes a serious bedding procedure (the kind that would see me pulled over on road) or serious track laps to shut them up for even a day. Even an autocross day a month or two back (won, so wasn't hanging around) didn't get them hot enough to quiet them for even that long.
It takes a serious bedding procedure (the kind that would see me pulled over on road) or serious track laps to shut them up for even a day. Even an autocross day a month or two back (won, so wasn't hanging around) didn't get them hot enough to quiet them for even that long.
#47
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My new Pagid yellow pads started squealing a few days after being installed along with new rotors a year or so back. Porsche mechanic's previous break-in instructions were to not do any hard braking until I had put some miles on them. After a few more days I did three or more panic stops form 60 mph to almost "0" on an open stretch of the freeway and the hard braking rubbed off whatever was causing the vibration. I do the same procedure on my mountain bike when trail grims builds up on the disk brakes, and same on my pickup, when I start hearing that squeal. Now after a year, every few months I hear squeals, do the same hard breaking, and the squeals disappear for a while. It appears to me to just be accumulated brake dust and grime. Give it a try.
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RS19, RS29, RSL1 & RSL2 are all yellow. These endurance pads are now being grouped under the RSL prefix so you'll now see them referred to as RSL19 & RSL29. Still the same pad but just a new prefix for the endurance pads.
RS14 is black and would be considered a sprint compound.
RS14 is black and would be considered a sprint compound.
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#51
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it's all in the bedding... more importantly, the initial bedding.
I could be proved wrong with the RS19/29s, but give it a shot with my method.
#52
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OK - So my 2 cents.
Fitted new Brembo Discs and RSL29s to the Cayman R.
Chamfered the pad face to 45 degrees or so on the leading and trailing edges (about 1/8th of an inch).
Used Ceratec grease on the backs and sides of the pad.
I drove the car normally for about 100 miles merely to place a heat cycle through the new discs and to allow them to key up with pad material.
I then began the bedding process as per a contact in the motorsport industry who offered advice for RSL pads.
Discs up to operating temp (300-400c)
10 stops with light to medium pressure bringing the car down from 105 to 35. 250 yard cool downs in between but accelerating quickly back to 105 to begin again.
5 stops 90 to 50 with hard pressure on the brake. Quickly accelerating hard back to 90 and 250 yard gaps inbetween
5 stops of 105 to 35 again with medium pressure. Never brining the car to a stop.
Then I drove for about 3 miles with medium braking pressure as and when needed.
i then drove slowly allowing the car and pads to cool down.
The result? Transformative breaks. I love my car once more and have ZERO squeal!
One.
Happy.
Bunny.
Fitted new Brembo Discs and RSL29s to the Cayman R.
Chamfered the pad face to 45 degrees or so on the leading and trailing edges (about 1/8th of an inch).
Used Ceratec grease on the backs and sides of the pad.
I drove the car normally for about 100 miles merely to place a heat cycle through the new discs and to allow them to key up with pad material.
I then began the bedding process as per a contact in the motorsport industry who offered advice for RSL pads.
Discs up to operating temp (300-400c)
10 stops with light to medium pressure bringing the car down from 105 to 35. 250 yard cool downs in between but accelerating quickly back to 105 to begin again.
5 stops 90 to 50 with hard pressure on the brake. Quickly accelerating hard back to 90 and 250 yard gaps inbetween
5 stops of 105 to 35 again with medium pressure. Never brining the car to a stop.
Then I drove for about 3 miles with medium braking pressure as and when needed.
i then drove slowly allowing the car and pads to cool down.
The result? Transformative breaks. I love my car once more and have ZERO squeal!
One.
Happy.
Bunny.
#53
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OK - So my 2 cents.
Fitted new Brembo Discs and RSL29s to the Cayman R.
Chamfered the pad face to 45 degrees or so on the leading and trailing edges (about 1/8th of an inch).
Used Ceratec grease on the backs and sides of the pad.
I drove the car normally for about 100 miles merely to place a heat cycle through the new discs and to allow them to key up with pad material.
I then began the bedding process as per a contact in the motorsport industry who offered advice for RSL pads.
Discs up to operating temp (300-400c)
10 stops with light to medium pressure bringing the car down from 105 to 35. 250 yard cool downs in between but accelerating quickly back to 105 to begin again.
5 stops 90 to 50 with hard pressure on the brake. Quickly accelerating hard back to 90 and 250 yard gaps inbetween
5 stops of 105 to 35 again with medium pressure. Never brining the car to a stop.
Then I drove for about 3 miles with medium braking pressure as and when needed.
i then drove slowly allowing the car and pads to cool down.
The result? Transformative breaks. I love my car once more and have ZERO squeal!
One.
Happy.
Bunny.
Fitted new Brembo Discs and RSL29s to the Cayman R.
Chamfered the pad face to 45 degrees or so on the leading and trailing edges (about 1/8th of an inch).
Used Ceratec grease on the backs and sides of the pad.
I drove the car normally for about 100 miles merely to place a heat cycle through the new discs and to allow them to key up with pad material.
I then began the bedding process as per a contact in the motorsport industry who offered advice for RSL pads.
Discs up to operating temp (300-400c)
10 stops with light to medium pressure bringing the car down from 105 to 35. 250 yard cool downs in between but accelerating quickly back to 105 to begin again.
5 stops 90 to 50 with hard pressure on the brake. Quickly accelerating hard back to 90 and 250 yard gaps inbetween
5 stops of 105 to 35 again with medium pressure. Never brining the car to a stop.
Then I drove for about 3 miles with medium braking pressure as and when needed.
i then drove slowly allowing the car and pads to cool down.
The result? Transformative breaks. I love my car once more and have ZERO squeal!
One.
Happy.
Bunny.
#55
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OK - So my 2 cents.
Fitted new Brembo Discs and RSL29s to the Cayman R.
Chamfered the pad face to 45 degrees or so on the leading and trailing edges (about 1/8th of an inch).
Used Ceratec grease on the backs and sides of the pad.
I drove the car normally for about 100 miles merely to place a heat cycle through the new discs and to allow them to key up with pad material.
I then began the bedding process as per a contact in the motorsport industry who offered advice for RSL pads.
Discs up to operating temp (300-400c)
10 stops with light to medium pressure bringing the car down from 105 to 35. 250 yard cool downs in between but accelerating quickly back to 105 to begin again.
5 stops 90 to 50 with hard pressure on the brake. Quickly accelerating hard back to 90 and 250 yard gaps inbetween
5 stops of 105 to 35 again with medium pressure. Never brining the car to a stop.
Then I drove for about 3 miles with medium braking pressure as and when needed.
i then drove slowly allowing the car and pads to cool down.
The result? Transformative breaks. I love my car once more and have ZERO squeal!
One.
Happy.
Bunny.
Fitted new Brembo Discs and RSL29s to the Cayman R.
Chamfered the pad face to 45 degrees or so on the leading and trailing edges (about 1/8th of an inch).
Used Ceratec grease on the backs and sides of the pad.
I drove the car normally for about 100 miles merely to place a heat cycle through the new discs and to allow them to key up with pad material.
I then began the bedding process as per a contact in the motorsport industry who offered advice for RSL pads.
Discs up to operating temp (300-400c)
10 stops with light to medium pressure bringing the car down from 105 to 35. 250 yard cool downs in between but accelerating quickly back to 105 to begin again.
5 stops 90 to 50 with hard pressure on the brake. Quickly accelerating hard back to 90 and 250 yard gaps inbetween
5 stops of 105 to 35 again with medium pressure. Never brining the car to a stop.
Then I drove for about 3 miles with medium braking pressure as and when needed.
i then drove slowly allowing the car and pads to cool down.
The result? Transformative breaks. I love my car once more and have ZERO squeal!
One.
Happy.
Bunny.
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This sounds exactly like the PCCB pads on my 991 GT3. Washing my car silences them for about 100 miles, but the noise always comes back. I'm getting my pads replaced today (cooked them during my last DE); hopefully it makes a difference.