NYC993

Some tough crowd here on the guy and the instructor.

Video shows well that once you exceeded the grip, turning the wheel does nothing. I wonder if he had unwound it a bit instead of keep cranking if his car would turn more at some point.

Surprised nobody (or maybe I missed) commented on letting the wheel go before the impact to preserve your wrists. The driver is holding onto the wheel for dear life instead of bracing for impact.

I still don't get the point of putting feet (and hands) on the dash with harnesses on (unless they are not 5-6pt). Seems like a good way to break an ankle or knee or wrist.

Here is me 3 years ago in the same turn...pardon for instructor yelling two feet in as I'm tank slapping a bit.

Marvinta

it's odd to watch Danica in a video and she's not hitting someone else's car. I kid I kid (sort of).

ProCoach

Her line would be a good reference for anyone on this board, especially in 5, 6, 7, 9 and 10...

Coochas

Looks good to me! No drama.
I would love to see the current gen F1 cars run through those same turns at 5Gs. Clocks might actually run backwards.

Veloce Raptor

Yep

stownsen914

Yes! They ran 1:30 laps in the late 70s (long course). Would they approach 1:00 today?

Coochas

it would be insane with today's cars. I don't think WGI would meet safety standards for F1. It would be amazing.

ProCoach

So, Bruno Giacomelli's Alfa Romeo 179C V-12 car was quickest in Friday and Saturday's sessions at the last US GP at the Glen in 1980. This was with NO inner loop and a straight shot up and over the crest, down into and through T5.

1:33.291 was the pole time. Fast lap was Alan Jones' Williams at a mid 1:34

I think the F1 cars would be a few seconds quicker than the Indy cars, a lot lighter, better aero and tires.

Scott Dixon's IRL pole was a 1:22.526 last year, WITH the inner loop.

mark kibort

nah..... he was too fast and the tires were being asked to do too much, even if the steering angle was less. he might have changed the angle a bit, but most importantly, he probably scrubbed off more speed by the front wheel being turned (it approaches lock up forces) , if the tires were not locked up.
letting go of the wheel is a nascar , indy thing. that doesnt really apply to the cars we drive in frontal impacts. cars are too stiff. steering column rarely moves . did you see the video of the head on collision crash test of the old challenger vs new? usually in frontal crashes, the entire passenger compartment is in tact.

mark kibort

Thats what a few of us seemed to see in the video. most were first leaning toward lockup.... but there was no smoking gun there, tire sound and movements were characteristics of brake failure, and or panic mis shift, clutch in, and maybe forgot to apply brakes.. (all bad reactions in this situation)
the car just did not respond to steering inputs as though the brakes were locked up. another indicator was the quick wiggle at the start seemingly caused by the rear brakes grabbing, and maybe the fronts not ?

we all are so quick to judge because of so many folks that have stacked their cars and blamed " no brakes, brake failure" when in fact, most are just lock up or other mistakes". one thing for sure, as i have said many times, you always should be going through a gear or two if you lose the brakes, CERTAINLY leaving it in gear for some engine deceleration braking forces on the rear wheel. practice it sometimes... it really works. it saved my car at laguna turn 2.

jdistefa

Ahem.

jdistefa

Or...

TrackDays247.com

Early cars did fold easily didn't they....

stownsen914

Don't forget that in the late 70s there was a chicane in the esses just before the back straight. I'd guess in terms of impact to lap times it might have been a wash compared to the bus stop.

Thundermoose

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