A safety question
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Unfortunately, I have experience here, so highly recommend properly mounted ultrashield road race super seat. It might be called a new name now. Our own Redlineman turned me on to it a decade ago. It is custom made and is not a halo seat but a full containment seat. Yup there is a difference. Interestingly, one of my shunts ended with damage almost exactly like a friend just did except mine was a bit worse bending more of the car a bit further up. Both were rear offset impacts where seat support is very important. My friend, younger and tougher than myself had quite a headache but no other injury. Was it the difference in seats? Maybe. He had a typical FIA legal Sparco. Twice now, one being a rollover, my custom seat saved me with zero injury.
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there was mention of height/belt angle issue with certain Halo seats. Can someone please elaborate on the issue?
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Here's an video of a side hit that shows how much the head can move w/o any protection https://rennlist.com/forums/10509922-post2.html
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Yep this is my biggest gripe with the SPG seats, why they didn't use the holes found on the SPG XL I don't know. But belt the angle is a little close to the minimum for comfort. Better now with my cage vs. the DAS I had previously at least.
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The Simpson/Safety Solutions Hybrid devices seem like a no brainer when HALO seats aren't an option. I almost never see them at the track, though. Am I missing something here?
Here's an video of a side hit that shows how much the head can move w/o any protection https://rennlist.com/forums/10509922-post2.html
Here's an video of a side hit that shows how much the head can move w/o any protection https://rennlist.com/forums/10509922-post2.html
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I'm not endorsing it -- in fact, I do find it a bit cumbersome to use. My 3" shoulder harness tends to interfere with the dual tethers that connect to my helmet as I'm putting it on, and getting the bottom rings through the lap belt tabs while belting up without really being able to tilt my head down is tough. But I've learned to give myself a bit more time to belt in, and it's otherwise fine.
It's very quick to get out of the car with it, as well.
These don't help with driving to the track but the Kirkey seats have adjustable height halos in a full containment seat. (Seat shown without its seat cover)
http://www.jegs.com/i/Kirkey/570/459...ductId=1647162
http://www.jegs.com/i/Kirkey/570/459...ductId=1647162
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In a race car I would only use a halo seat. We use a Recaro Pro Racer Hans. With it I see no purpose of a passenger side net. In a dual purpose car I would seriously consider the Simpsons Hybrid or a seat with removable wings.
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Dr. Melvin, who does the research for Indycar, NASCAR, NHRA, F1, and many other series will tell you that your head can make it outside the halo. He has video of lots of incidents where the drivers head makes it outside the halo and is guided back in by the center net.
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Btw, thanks for starting this thread.
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Dr. Melvin, who does the research for Indycar, NASCAR, NHRA, F1, and many other series will tell you that your head can make it outside the halo. He has video of lots of incidents where the drivers head makes it outside the halo and is guided back in by the center net.