Video of my rollover
06-20-2013, 11:20 AM
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Two things about the OP.
One, he had just destroyed his car, second time this year. That sucks and I can understand how unhappy I'd be at the thought of that. A post after an incident like this will always have passion clouding judegment to some point.
Two, he hasn't taken video down, locked thread or anything. That says something.
One, he had just destroyed his car, second time this year. That sucks and I can understand how unhappy I'd be at the thought of that. A post after an incident like this will always have passion clouding judegment to some point.
Two, he hasn't taken video down, locked thread or anything. That says something.
06-20-2013, 11:29 AM
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Two things about the OP.
One, he had just destroyed his car, second time this year. That sucks and I can understand how unhappy I'd be at the thought of that. A post after an incident like this will always have passion clouding judegment to some point.
Two, he hasn't taken video down, locked thread or anything. That says something.
One, he had just destroyed his car, second time this year. That sucks and I can understand how unhappy I'd be at the thought of that. A post after an incident like this will always have passion clouding judegment to some point.
Two, he hasn't taken video down, locked thread or anything. That says something.
06-20-2013, 12:48 PM
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+2. This has been a useful discussion, and has trigged some thoughts about further reducing contact, which I may post on another thread, but we shouldn't forget there are real people that we've dissected and Monday-morning quarter backed pretty hard (myself included)
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06-20-2013, 01:07 PM
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06-20-2013, 01:19 PM
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+2. This has been a useful discussion, and has trigged some thoughts about further reducing contact, which I may post on another thread, but we shouldn't forget there are real people that we've dissected and Monday-morning quarter backed pretty hard (myself included)
Credit and kudos to the OP for offering his predicament for public dissection. He paid for our tuition in more ways than one.
Same goes for Speedtoys for offering and defending a different point of view, especially against an overwhelmingly opposing consensus. The discussion would have been be much less fruitful without this.
I hope no one took anything personally and everyone benefited from this debate. I'm sure that, as racing/track addicts, we would all enjoy racing and/or having a beer together.
06-20-2013, 03:48 PM
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Two things about the OP.
One, he had just destroyed his car, second time this year. That sucks and I can understand how unhappy I'd be at the thought of that. A post after an incident like this will always have passion clouding judegment to some point.
Two, he hasn't taken video down, locked thread or anything. That says something.
One, he had just destroyed his car, second time this year. That sucks and I can understand how unhappy I'd be at the thought of that. A post after an incident like this will always have passion clouding judegment to some point.
Two, he hasn't taken video down, locked thread or anything. That says something.
06-20-2013, 04:07 PM
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Is this the way it's going to be from now on with video in every car? Race on Sunday and then try to ruin someone's reputation on Monday? That's a sad state of affairs...
06-20-2013, 04:09 PM
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+2. This has been a useful discussion, and has trigged some thoughts about further reducing contact, which I may post on another thread, but we shouldn't forget there are real people that we've dissected and Monday-morning quarter backed pretty hard (myself included)
06-20-2013, 04:49 PM
#208
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The incriminating video is not his to take down. In fact, he SHOULD take down his video, which by itself, continues to attempt to smear and criticize the driver of the white car.
Is this the way it's going to be from now on with video in every car? Race on Sunday and then try to ruin someone's reputation on Monday? That's a sad state of affairs...
Is this the way it's going to be from now on with video in every car? Race on Sunday and then try to ruin someone's reputation on Monday? That's a sad state of affairs...
06-20-2013, 04:59 PM
#209
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First, I would like to thank everyone that has commented on this incident. I never planned on commenting because I felt the discussion would be better served without my involvement. I didn't want anyone to refrain from speaking their mind because they felt I may be offended. Some of you might not believe me, and some will continue to bash me and that's fine, but please continue reading.
Did I know the driver was there? Yes.
Did I know of the 3/4 rule beforehand? Yes.
Was my understanding of the rule used as a tool? No.
Some people may assume that I have a grudge against the other driver and wanted him to be punished and made ashamed of by posting the video in the way which it was presented. That is not at all the case.
Before this incident Jeff and I were friends, heck I even brought him two 6 packs of his favorite brew (stone IPA) in the paddock the day before the incident. After our incident, we have created an even stronger friendship. We have had several extended phone calls over the last few days talking about how this incident has created an opportunity for us all to better the sport, to improve the safety, to clearify the rule book, to better prepare Comp. school students, to recertify existing racers, to identify and address potential safety issues with Summit Point and maybe other tracks that aren't up to professional safety standards. Each of us as racers, collectively hold a lot of power. We need to use it.
Lastly, if you feel passionate about a problem with your sanctioning body, I ask you to speak up if you don't agree with the rules or the calls made by the officials, they will listen. Talk to Regional and National officers and let them know if you have a concern, they are listening.
Take care -
Rob
Did I know the driver was there? Yes.
Did I know of the 3/4 rule beforehand? Yes.
Was my understanding of the rule used as a tool? No.
Some people may assume that I have a grudge against the other driver and wanted him to be punished and made ashamed of by posting the video in the way which it was presented. That is not at all the case.
Before this incident Jeff and I were friends, heck I even brought him two 6 packs of his favorite brew (stone IPA) in the paddock the day before the incident. After our incident, we have created an even stronger friendship. We have had several extended phone calls over the last few days talking about how this incident has created an opportunity for us all to better the sport, to improve the safety, to clearify the rule book, to better prepare Comp. school students, to recertify existing racers, to identify and address potential safety issues with Summit Point and maybe other tracks that aren't up to professional safety standards. Each of us as racers, collectively hold a lot of power. We need to use it.
Lastly, if you feel passionate about a problem with your sanctioning body, I ask you to speak up if you don't agree with the rules or the calls made by the officials, they will listen. Talk to Regional and National officers and let them know if you have a concern, they are listening.
Take care -
Rob
