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02-07-2013, 06:25 PM
#137
The Penguin King
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And we're off...
02-07-2013, 06:33 PM
#138
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Scott, that's cool. Not trying to upset anyone. Racing, driving, walking, drinking, living, dating, etc it all involves wear and tear.
I think its cool you want to keep things civil. I can respect that.
I see the rabbit hole and I'm not venturing any closer.
I think its cool you want to keep things civil. I can respect that.
I see the rabbit hole and I'm not venturing any closer.
02-07-2013, 06:47 PM
#139
It's not a rabbit hole. Just respect the fact that not everyone has the funds to do what you think they should do. You didn't do that with your comment. You basically said if you can't or don't want to spend the cash (to pay for wear and tear) to run all the sessions all the time, don't come out. That's not right and certainly not your call.
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02-07-2013, 06:57 PM
#141
Burning Brakes
It's not a rabbit hole. Just respect the fact that not everyone has the funds to do what you think they should do. You didn't do that with your comment. You basically said if you can't or don't want to spend the cash (to pay for wear and tear) to run all the sessions all the time, don't come out. That's not right and certainly not your call.
Scott
Scott
02-07-2013, 07:05 PM
#142
Drifting
Very interesting thread, with a lot of valid points.
I've taken the last couple of years off because business has been slow, and I shudder at the thought of a six-figure ball of metal and carbon fiber. From what I've read, the guys posting here are not the problem. I've been on track with several of you and while the racing is close, it's always been fair, fun, and clean. From my very limited perspective, the big issues seems to be too many guys out there that can write a big check to go racing. Too often, egos are inflated by bank accounts. These guys feel that since they've been successful, and they can afford a Cup/RSR/whatever, then they should naturally be in front, right? Some of the guys are the same ones who complained about their 996 Turbos getting passed by 944's in DE's. Sound familiar?
Unfortunately, PCA cannot afford to properly train these guys to come up the ladder, and they shouldn't have to.
On a side note, great to see Daniel Yonker out with a new whip. That video from Mid-Ohio was gut wrenching!
I've taken the last couple of years off because business has been slow, and I shudder at the thought of a six-figure ball of metal and carbon fiber. From what I've read, the guys posting here are not the problem. I've been on track with several of you and while the racing is close, it's always been fair, fun, and clean. From my very limited perspective, the big issues seems to be too many guys out there that can write a big check to go racing. Too often, egos are inflated by bank accounts. These guys feel that since they've been successful, and they can afford a Cup/RSR/whatever, then they should naturally be in front, right? Some of the guys are the same ones who complained about their 996 Turbos getting passed by 944's in DE's. Sound familiar?
Unfortunately, PCA cannot afford to properly train these guys to come up the ladder, and they shouldn't have to.
On a side note, great to see Daniel Yonker out with a new whip. That video from Mid-Ohio was gut wrenching!
02-07-2013, 07:35 PM
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02-07-2013, 07:41 PM
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Very interesting thread, with a lot of valid points.
I've taken the last couple of years off because business has been slow, and I shudder at the thought of a six-figure ball of metal and carbon fiber. From what I've read, the guys posting here are not the problem.
On a side note, great to see Daniel Yonker out with a new whip. That video from Mid-Ohio was gut wrenching!
I've taken the last couple of years off because business has been slow, and I shudder at the thought of a six-figure ball of metal and carbon fiber. From what I've read, the guys posting here are not the problem.
On a side note, great to see Daniel Yonker out with a new whip. That video from Mid-Ohio was gut wrenching!
Glad to see Yonker back in the saddle!
02-07-2013, 08:31 PM
#146
I personally see no value in practice starts regardless of cost unless you're testing or you've missed practice. I would think one would be better off hiring a coach if getting up to speed is what's needed. Unfortunately, coaching is often overlooked in favor of other “go fast” mods. Those who have had the chance to work with a good one surly appreciate it. Three practice sessions, a warmup, quali and two sprints is a ton of track time. If you have a specific issue to work out, seat time itself might not be enough.
02-07-2013, 08:33 PM
#147
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I personally see no value in practice starts regardless of cost unless you're testing or you've missed practice. I would think one would be better off hiring a coach if getting up to speed is what's needed. Unfortunately, coaching is often overlooked in favor of other “go fast” mods. Those who have had the chance to work with a good one surly appreciate it. Three practice sessions, a warmup, quali and two sprints is a ton of track time. If you have a specific issue to work out, seat time itself might not be enough.
02-07-2013, 08:39 PM
#148
uninformed gas bag
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Maybe they should just make guilty parties pick up the check. Like a wise wash room attendant once told me.. "you wet the bowl you pay the toll"
02-07-2013, 09:45 PM
#149
Very interesting thread, with a lot of valid points.
...From my very limited perspective, the big issues seems to be too many guys out there that can write a big check to go racing. Too often, egos are inflated by bank accounts. These guys feel that since they've been successful, and they can afford a Cup/RSR/whatever, then they should naturally be in front, right? Some of the guys are the same ones who complained about their 996 Turbos getting passed by 944's in DE's. Sound familiar?
Unfortunately, PCA cannot afford to properly train these guys to come up the ladder, and they shouldn't have to...
...From my very limited perspective, the big issues seems to be too many guys out there that can write a big check to go racing. Too often, egos are inflated by bank accounts. These guys feel that since they've been successful, and they can afford a Cup/RSR/whatever, then they should naturally be in front, right? Some of the guys are the same ones who complained about their 996 Turbos getting passed by 944's in DE's. Sound familiar?
Unfortunately, PCA cannot afford to properly train these guys to come up the ladder, and they shouldn't have to...
You made a very good point here...
"Money can buy a speed, but can't buy a talent"
