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Old 03-29-2012, 10:01 AM
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F1: FIA Could Sanction Vettel
Reigning World Champion Sebastian Vettel may be on the wrong side of Formula One's governing body...
SPEED Staff / GMM | Posted March 28, 2012 GMM Newswire RELATED
Sebastian Vettel was less than happy after the Malaysian GP. (Photo: Getty Images)
The FIA could sanction F1's reigning back-to-back World Champion for his behavior during the recent Malaysian Grand Prix.

Before calling backmarker Narain Karthikeyan a "gherkin" and "idiot" in the wake of their collision, Sebastian Vettel was captured by his on-board camera twice displaying his middle-finger to the Indian driver.

"I think he's highly frustrated because he's having a tough season," Karthikeyan told the Deccan Chronicle on Wednesday.

"It's completely unprofessional to blame me for the incident. The derogatory remark only goes to show him in bad light.

"Just because he has a good car, he can't call others an idiot," Karthikeyan continued.

"I have won races in all the previous single-seater championships I have participated in, so I don't need a certificate from Vettel."

Reports in Germany, including in the Kolner Express, Bild and Die Welt newspapers, claim that Red Bull driver's behavior may have breached the new stricter code of conduct introduced by FIA president Jean Todt.

The FIA has been contacted for comment.

"He has breached the code of conduct," former F1 driver Marc Surer told Germany's Sky television. "You sign it when you get the license and then you have to behave correspondingly.

"Any behavior that hurts other people or the sport is an offense," added the Swiss.

Asked what the penalties might be, Surer explained: "Anything from a warning to a license revocation. In this case I think it was quite understandable and there will be a mild punishment, if there is anything."

Hans-Joachim Stuck, however, is slightly less forgiving.

"When you're overtaking, misunderstandings can occur. I think Vettel needs to learn this.

"With him, the curve was always upwards and now it's not the case, and he needs to deal with that," the German legend told the DAPD news agency.

As for Vettel's description of Karthikeyan as a "gherkin," Stuck insisted: "It's better than '*******.'"

Vettel's attack, however, was sustained, with Kleine Zeitung newspaper now quoting the Red Bull driver as having said: "Maybe Formula One is not the place to learn how to drive."

Stuck responded: "If Sebastian had left more space, it would not have happened. It happens sometimes so it's a racing incident.

"He (Karthikeyan) didn't do it on purpose and it always takes two."

The HRT driver hit back by calling Vettel a "bully," and even David Coulthard — a Red Bull team consultant — defended Karthikeyan.

"He can't make his car invisible," the Scot is quoted as saying by the Mirror.

Also defending Karthikeyan was Force India driver Nico Hulkenberg, who told the Indian press this week: "From what I saw, it was not Narain's fault.

"So I don't really understand why he (Vettel) said all that."

Hukenberg's Force India teammate Paul di Resta added: "Narain is entitled to do as much on the track in comparison with someone like Vettel.

"Both are F1 drivers and are there to represent their teams."
Wonder what people have to say now. He has been a rennlist darling. Not known to be a little biatch.
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One incedent of frustration does not make him a biatch. We'll see if this is a isolated instance or if it will become more of an attitude if Red Bull continues to follow the McLarens this season.
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I think he's highly frustrated because he's having a tough season," Karthikeyan told the Deccan Chronicle on Wednesday.


We'll see who has a better season; Vettel or Chicane Karthikeyan.
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What...what...gherkin is bad?
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Vettel was captured by his on-board camera twice displaying his middle-finger to the Indian driver.
That would have been fun to watch
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In case it wasn't obvious from the broadcasts...

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Perhaps we could ask someone of high moral character, a senior F1 driver perhaps, to act as mediator in this situation.

It would need to be someone as pure as the driven snow, perhaps a former WDC, perhaps a Senior Member of the GPDA, someone who is beyond reproach and above all the day to day squabbles in F1, .... wait, I have it.

Send in Alonso

Raj, seriously, is this the best you can do?
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Seems to me like he came off the corner, moved right and clipped the back of Vettel. Stupid, un-aware maneuver.
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From what I saw, it was not Narain's fault.

"So I don't really understand why he (Vettel) said all that."
Hmm...

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:28 sec, watch the onboard.

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Vettel moved over, Karthikeyan was holding his line. Very clear in the video.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Seems to me like he came off the corner, moved right and clipped the back of Vettel. Stupid, un-aware maneuver.
I'd put blame on that to Vettel. He moved to the racing line (left) too quick which was unnecessary anyway since the next corner was a left hander so they were moving to the right side of the track anyway.

That doesn't change the fact that Karthikeyan drove poorly in couple of situations (including this with Vettel) where he was being passed or lapped, it's a shame but when you're in a car that is that slow, you are a moving chicane, need to face the facts and to move over a lot.

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Old 03-29-2012, 10:47 AM
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Sorry, I do not agree with you Narain, and the video proves it. Vettel left room for you, and all you had to do was to go straight. There was enough room at trackout for you to move off of the curbing and not hit Vettel.


Think he reads Rennlist?
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Almost every driver gets frustrated at some time. Tell him to chill and let's move on.
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Originally Posted by 968TurboS
Vettel moved over, Karthikeyan was holding his line. Very clear in the video.
Where was it clear that NK "held his line"? Where he came off of trackout, moved right and hit Vettel?


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