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Old 01-26-2011, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by winders
Don't Cup cars come with steel doors with internal crash protection?

If you are building a race car with FRP doors, you want some type of NASCAR door bar system.

Scott
cup car are CF doors.
X bar is by far stronger than nascar bar.
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Any proper race car is green.
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Originally Posted by Tom W
Any proper race car is green.


hope to see u soon.
Old 01-26-2011, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
X bar is by far stronger than nascar bar.
For side impact? Do you have the facts to back that up? I would love to see the data...

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Old 01-26-2011, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom W
Any proper race car is green.
Tom,

Historically, green has been considered "bad luck" for race cars...and even race bikes. This superstition appears to have started in the late 1910's or early 1920's.

I had a green race bike, a Kawasaki, and had no issues. Then again, I am not superstitious.

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Old 01-26-2011, 01:43 PM
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Scott - Back in the dark ages people believed a lot of things we now think are silly. Bad luck and green race cars sems to be one of them. I have data that I made up last night to show that a green race car is at least 2 seconds faster than any other color - and 3 seconds faster than some boring white car. Don't even get me started on those dead slow silver cars that John seems to like.

And, yes John, after about 5 months recovery from the surgery I'm ready to get back to racing and will be at Sears Point in March to start the new season.
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looks great, nice job!
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Originally Posted by Tom W
I have data that I made up last night to show that a green race car is at least 2 seconds faster than any other color - and 3 seconds faster than some boring white car. Don't even get me started on those dead slow silver cars that John seems to like.
Dang! I better repaint my race car!!

Scott
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Dan, how much does the roll cage weigh? I have a DAS roll bar in my 993, and it is HEAVY! (60lbs) Do you use light weight air craft type alloy or just mild carbon steel? Have anyone tried to build a titanium cage?
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Shhh, Dan used PVC to save weight..
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Alright Dan, you win... very nice! Here I thought I'd have the prettiest interior photos to show off... geesh, talk about taking the wind out of someone's sails

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Originally Posted by Fly911
Dan, how much does the roll cage weigh? I have a DAS roll bar in my 993, and it is HEAVY! (60lbs) Do you use light weight air craft type alloy or just mild carbon steel? Have anyone tried to build a titanium cage?
not sure of the exact weight, I know i needed 30lbs balast less than the safety devices cage I had so its more than that!
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Originally Posted by ninjabones
Alright Dan, you win... very nice! Here I thought I'd have the prettiest interior photos to show off... geesh, talk about taking the wind out of someone's sails

that looks awesome Glen, when I saw the sneek preview I thought I needed to get in quick before you posted yours
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Looks great. May you never put it to its intended use. Cheers
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As a comparator, my cage in a 964. Mine is MIG welded 0.095 tubing (weight of the car is ~2150 lbs). Mine also replaced a Safety Devices "bolt-in". I likely have the weight of mine somewhere, but not available right now.
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