View Poll Results: Who will win?
Nico Rosberg
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Felipe Massa
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Rubens Barrichello
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Nico Hulkenberg
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Robert Kubica
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Vitaly Petrov
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Adrian Sutil
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Viantonio Liuzzi
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Sebastien Buemi
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Jamie Alguersuari
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Jarno Trulli
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Heikki Kovalainen
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Karun Chandhok
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Bruno Senna
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Pedro de la Rosa
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Kamui Kobayashi
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Timo Glock
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Lucas di Grassi
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2010 British Grand Prix
#196
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Because Ferrari asked for a ruling after only one second, the only circumstances in which I think it's possible to come to a reasonable conclusion about how much Alonso is to blame are these.
- First, we have to know whether it is common for the driver rely on the team to tell him to let the other car pass. This is particularly true in less certain situations like the one in question. If this is the case, it's likely that Ferrari were looking for an answer, didn't get one, and could not communicate with Alonso.
- If this isn't the case and it's up to the driver, we need to determine if Alonso called the team to ask about whether to let Kubica pass him. If he made the assumption that he should keep going, then I believe he is at fault because he should be asking for communication, despite whether he ever gets an answer. If he called the team and never got a decisive answer, then I don't think it's unreasonable to keep going.
- First, we have to know whether it is common for the driver rely on the team to tell him to let the other car pass. This is particularly true in less certain situations like the one in question. If this is the case, it's likely that Ferrari were looking for an answer, didn't get one, and could not communicate with Alonso.
- If this isn't the case and it's up to the driver, we need to determine if Alonso called the team to ask about whether to let Kubica pass him. If he made the assumption that he should keep going, then I believe he is at fault because he should be asking for communication, despite whether he ever gets an answer. If he called the team and never got a decisive answer, then I don't think it's unreasonable to keep going.
This is not new , the FIA use these inconsistencies in the rules to manipulate race results , they have been doing this for quite sometime now and for a sport that used to thumb their noses at using a Pace car , they seem to have an affinity for them now , even to remove paper .....
From the on board shot in ALonso's car, it certainly looked like he was pushed off track at Club. Alonso asks his team for a clarification, and now it comes out with timed details down to the second that Ferrari asked Whiting for clarification on 3 different occasions, but they failed to deliver a clear decision until they impose a drive through penalty much later than the actual infraction occurred.
In the meantime, Kubica dropped out with an engine failure, Alonso had passed multiple cars on track and is then given the penalty?
It's clear that either the FIA is incompetent or they are blatently favoring the two McLaren drivers. There can be no other reason.
I'm really sick of the FIA CYA. They released a press release last week that made it sound like THEY told Ferrari on 3 different occasions to have Alonso repass Kubica, but the team didn't pass it on to Alonso.
Now, the team releases evidence on radio that the FIA was the one that was asked 3 times and they never delivered a clear ruling until it was too late. THe FIA just leaves a bad taste in the mouth of true fans when they act like this. This is MAFIA at it's worst!!!!!
In the meantime, Kubica dropped out with an engine failure, Alonso had passed multiple cars on track and is then given the penalty?
It's clear that either the FIA is incompetent or they are blatently favoring the two McLaren drivers. There can be no other reason.
I'm really sick of the FIA CYA. They released a press release last week that made it sound like THEY told Ferrari on 3 different occasions to have Alonso repass Kubica, but the team didn't pass it on to Alonso.
Now, the team releases evidence on radio that the FIA was the one that was asked 3 times and they never delivered a clear ruling until it was too late. THe FIA just leaves a bad taste in the mouth of true fans when they act like this. This is MAFIA at it's worst!!!!!
Pretty simple ... if the move was illegal the ruling should have been clear , Alonso to give back the position , clear and simple . Whiting waited until their ruling would have the most avorable results ( button ) hence the impeccable timing of imposing it almost 20 mins later ...
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Stepping aside from all the jovialities around here, I find it hard to believe that some of you think that Alonso really did cheat on purpose in this instance? Seems like we're looking at different footage....
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He did neither.
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I'm not sure I understand your post, was someone else behind the wheel? It sure looked like he could have backed off, not cut the corner and slipped in behind Kubica. If that was not possible he could have cut the chicane but immediately ceded back the position as the rules call for.
He did neither.
He did neither.
As I said, I'm neither a fan nor a detractor of Alonso. I just think the majority of drivers in the same position would have done pretty much exactly the same.