Thinking about racing NASA events.......
#61
275 at the flywheel equates to around 235 rwhp. Weight w/driver (200?) of 2730 =11.6 with 11.0 being the minimum for GTS3 on R compounds. If the 235rwhp is accurate he could weigh as little as 2585 w/driver (235 x 11). Conversly, at 2730 he could have 248rwhp. Slicks of course alter the calcs....
#62
JR, without a whp dyno your hypothetical calculations are just that. Go to the dyno. It is no different than any other visit to the car doctor and it won't hurt (sometimes egos get a little hurt). The 964 cups dyno higher in general one of the posters in this thread drives his 964 cup in GTS4.
#63
So my <$9000 944 meets your criteria because it a Porsche or because its more than $5k ?
Let me tell you we care about our cheap cars just as much as you and your expensive car. I run a race car that I know that I can absorb the loss of - and thats why I run a 944 and not my 964. Comments like the above are some of the reasons that jokes about Porsches and porcupines exist
Sorry - one of my hot buttons.
Let me tell you we care about our cheap cars just as much as you and your expensive car. I run a race car that I know that I can absorb the loss of - and thats why I run a 944 and not my 964. Comments like the above are some of the reasons that jokes about Porsches and porcupines exist
Sorry - one of my hot buttons.
#64
So my <$9000 944 meets your criteria because it a Porsche or because its more than $5k ?
Let me tell you we care about our cheap cars just as much as you and your expensive car. I run a race car that I know that I can absorb the loss of - and thats why I run a 944 and not my 964. Comments like the above are some of the reasons that jokes about Porsches and porcupines exist
Sorry - one of my hot buttons.
Let me tell you we care about our cheap cars just as much as you and your expensive car. I run a race car that I know that I can absorb the loss of - and thats why I run a 944 and not my 964. Comments like the above are some of the reasons that jokes about Porsches and porcupines exist
Sorry - one of my hot buttons.
+1
#65
By my calcs he's in the lower end of GT3 on R compounds.
275 at the flywheel equates to around 235 rwhp. Weight w/driver (200?) of 2730 =11.6 with 11.0 being the minimum for GTS3 on R compounds. If the 235rwhp is accurate he could weigh as little as 2585 w/driver (235 x 11). Conversly, at 2730 he could have 248rwhp. Slicks of course alter the calcs....
275 at the flywheel equates to around 235 rwhp. Weight w/driver (200?) of 2730 =11.6 with 11.0 being the minimum for GTS3 on R compounds. If the 235rwhp is accurate he could weigh as little as 2585 w/driver (235 x 11). Conversly, at 2730 he could have 248rwhp. Slicks of course alter the calcs....
#66
Jerry, I understand your defensiveness but it doesn't change the facts. Their are many with less expensive rides that have very caviler attitudes. Especially toward Porsches. I stand by my statement.
As for 944s, most people I know that have them have $20-30k in their cars. They are not generally inexpensive cars to own. I bet you conveniently have lose some receipts to protect the guilty.
As for 944s, most people I know that have them have $20-30k in their cars. They are not generally inexpensive cars to own. I bet you conveniently have lose some receipts to protect the guilty.
So my <$9000 944 meets your criteria because it a Porsche or because its more than $5k ?
Let me tell you we care about our cheap cars just as much as you and your expensive car. I run a race car that I know that I can absorb the loss of - and thats why I run a 944 and not my 964. Comments like the above are some of the reasons that jokes about Porsches and porcupines exist
Sorry - one of my hot buttons.
Let me tell you we care about our cheap cars just as much as you and your expensive car. I run a race car that I know that I can absorb the loss of - and thats why I run a 944 and not my 964. Comments like the above are some of the reasons that jokes about Porsches and porcupines exist
Sorry - one of my hot buttons.
#67
On Topic: I'm slowly working up the NASA ladder (currently HPDE-3) and I'm hooked by the paddock atmosphere and race-oriented mindset of NASA. I love the variety of cars and people. Mustang guys rubbin' elbows and bumpers with M3 guys; Civics buzzing around with 944s. I can't comment on the racing experience yet, but I expect NASA to be my first racing experience.
Off Topic: If the propensity to swap paint is not based on a car's value, then what determines this? For example, why do Spec Miata's tend to beat on each other? Obviously, close racing and large fields add to the problem; but the same can be said of Spec E30 and 994Cup/Spec (close racing, large fields) but they don't have a reputation for bending metal.
Off Topic: If the propensity to swap paint is not based on a car's value, then what determines this? For example, why do Spec Miata's tend to beat on each other? Obviously, close racing and large fields add to the problem; but the same can be said of Spec E30 and 994Cup/Spec (close racing, large fields) but they don't have a reputation for bending metal.
#69
I will concur that NASA has a much more effective ladder system for moving up from HPDE to racing than does PCA. My experience in PCA, at least with NNJR, was that the DE segment was going in a very different direction, and if anything were discouraging racers. Further, the training was not well aligned, as NASA's is, and the DE system does not teach some important skills (such as starts and passing technique).
#70
JR, without a whp dyno your hypothetical calculations are just that. Go to the dyno. It is no different than any other visit to the car doctor and it won't hurt (sometimes egos get a little hurt). The 964 cups dyno higher in general one of the posters in this thread drives his 964 cup in GTS4.
#75
Great theory, but in the real world there are wilda$$ed drivers in every class of car. Back in my NASA days there was a certain GTS series director who was totally unpredictable, and known to throw banzai moves on a regular basis. His BMW was highly prepared and probably in the $100K range.