USF1 has a driver
01-31-2010, 08:12 AM
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I'm sorta excited about this guy after watching some of his stuff.
USF1 had no chance at a big name this year. They could have gone with a known quantity who would have been nice and bland. At least with this guy there might be a chance for flashes of brilliance as we saw with Kobayashi at the end of last year.
USF1 had no chance at a big name this year. They could have gone with a known quantity who would have been nice and bland. At least with this guy there might be a chance for flashes of brilliance as we saw with Kobayashi at the end of last year.
Following Joe's comments, I submit this:
EVERYONE in F1 has to bring money. Always have, always will. Enough with that already.
While J-ML may not be a household name, he is a competent driver.
Further, he serves the needs of USF1 as they perceive them to be.
It is their team after-all...
From the very beginning Windsor and Anderson have said that their approach will be different. This applies to all facets of the team - including driver selection.
Rather than a "star", they've selected a yeoman driver with thousands of miles of contemporary F1 car testing. Some of J-ML's testing with the (old) RenaultF1 team was race-distance runs with a car purposely set up in a compromised way. Very beneficial to have a person with that experience IMHO. Too, he's proven to be a racing driver that is willing to 'step back' in order to remain competitive and racing. Evidence his return to Argentina and becoming champion in his homeland's touring car series.
By not selecting a 'personality', USF1 have a driver who is motivated, experienced, funded and under the radar. Perfect.
A full paradigm shift? Perhaps not. However, don't be stuck in the old way of thinking.
There are hundreds of 'second tier' drivers that just need a break. This is J-ML's opportunity.
Take last season for example, who had actually heard of Kamui Kobayashi?
How 'bout RenaultF1? In all likelihood they'll be signing Vitaly Petrov as he has access to even MORE money the J-ML's sponsors do. Russia's funny like that...
Anyway, if I get a chance to stop by USF1's shop for a coffee later this week, I'll let 'em know how you naysayers here feel...
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01-31-2010, 08:40 AM
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Following Joe's comments, I submit this:
EVERYONE in F1 has to bring money. Always have, always well. Enough with that already.
While J-ML may not be a household name, he is a competent driver.
Further, he serves the needs of USF1 as they perceive them to be.
It is their team after-all...
From the very beginning Windsor and Anderson have said that their approach will be different. This applies to all facets of the team - including driver selection.
Rather than a "star", they've selected a yeoman driver with thousands of miles of contemporary F1 car testing. Some of J-ML's testing with the (old) RenaultF1 team was race-distance runs with a car purposely set up in a compromised way. Very beneficial to have a person with that experience IMHO. Too, he's proven to be a racing driver that is willing to 'step back' in order to remain competitive and racing. Evidence his return to Argentina and becoming champion in his homeland's touring car series.
By not selecting a 'personality', USF1 have a driver who is motivated, experienced, funded and under the radar. Perfect.
A full paradigm shift? Perhaps not. However, don't be stuck in the old way of thinking.
There are hundreds of 'second tier' drivers that just need a break. This is J-ML's opportunity.
Take last season for example, who had actually heard of Kamui Kobayashi?
How 'bout RenaultF1? In all likelihood they'll be signing Vitaly Petrov as he has access to even MORE money the J-ML's sponsors do. Russia's funny like that...
Anyway, if I get a chance to stop by USF1's shop for a coffee later this week, I'll let 'em know how you naysayers here feel...
Following Joe's comments, I submit this:
EVERYONE in F1 has to bring money. Always have, always well. Enough with that already.
While J-ML may not be a household name, he is a competent driver.
Further, he serves the needs of USF1 as they perceive them to be.
It is their team after-all...
From the very beginning Windsor and Anderson have said that their approach will be different. This applies to all facets of the team - including driver selection.
Rather than a "star", they've selected a yeoman driver with thousands of miles of contemporary F1 car testing. Some of J-ML's testing with the (old) RenaultF1 team was race-distance runs with a car purposely set up in a compromised way. Very beneficial to have a person with that experience IMHO. Too, he's proven to be a racing driver that is willing to 'step back' in order to remain competitive and racing. Evidence his return to Argentina and becoming champion in his homeland's touring car series.
By not selecting a 'personality', USF1 have a driver who is motivated, experienced, funded and under the radar. Perfect.
A full paradigm shift? Perhaps not. However, don't be stuck in the old way of thinking.
There are hundreds of 'second tier' drivers that just need a break. This is J-ML's opportunity.
Take last season for example, who had actually heard of Kamui Kobayashi?
How 'bout RenaultF1? In all likelihood they'll be signing Vitaly Petrov as he has access to even MORE money the J-ML's sponsors do. Russia's funny like that...
Anyway, if I get a chance to stop by USF1's shop for a coffee later this week, I'll let 'em know how you naysayers here feel...
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01-31-2010, 12:57 PM
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I wonder how much Schumi is paying for his seat in MB, or perhaps Vettel in Red Bull..? Or maybe how much Senna paid at McLaren, or Hamilton?
And for other drivers in new team, I KNOW that for example Kovalainen did not bring a single cent money to Lotus, instead, they're paying him,
Look, J-ML might be a great driver, not disputing that but besides that, there are about 8 million other reasons why USF1 hired him.
01-31-2010, 01:15 PM
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Care to elaborate?
I wonder how much Schumi is paying for his seat in MB, or perhaps Vettel in Red Bull..? Or maybe how much Senna paid at McLaren, or Hamilton?
And for other drivers in new team, I KNOW that for example Kovalainen did not bring a single cent money to Lotus, instead, they're paying him,
Look, J-ML might be a great driver, not disputing that but besides that, there are about 8 million other reasons why USF1 hired him.
I wonder how much Schumi is paying for his seat in MB, or perhaps Vettel in Red Bull..? Or maybe how much Senna paid at McLaren, or Hamilton?
And for other drivers in new team, I KNOW that for example Kovalainen did not bring a single cent money to Lotus, instead, they're paying him,
Look, J-ML might be a great driver, not disputing that but besides that, there are about 8 million other reasons why USF1 hired him.
There are different ways people bring money. Direct and indirect money. Think of certain Spanish drivers and the sponsors that have followed him.
Everyone is bringing money in one way or another.
01-31-2010, 02:36 PM
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Your argument went off the rails right at the start. I'm not exactly sure when the front runners indirectly brought money (in effect, having their own personal sponsors), but I dare say a young Ayrton Senna didn't bring anything when hopping into a Toleman. Certainly in today's environment Lewis Hamilton had nothing to bring to the table when Ron Dennis seriously contacted him, albeit under the guise of driver development.
Going into the wayback machine, didn't Lord Hesketh basically enter F1 to bring James Hunt into the series?
Going into the wayback machine, didn't Lord Hesketh basically enter F1 to bring James Hunt into the series?
02-17-2010, 10:12 AM
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Okay, the naysayers were right....
All I know is that I spent time in the USF1 shop and saw real human beings doing real work on a real car.
Very sad - and embarrassing for those who dove in to this team.
That's all I have to say.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
All I know is that I spent time in the USF1 shop and saw real human beings doing real work on a real car.
Very sad - and embarrassing for those who dove in to this team.
That's all I have to say.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
02-17-2010, 10:17 AM
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Okay, the naysayers were right....
All I know is that I spent time in the USF1 shop and saw real human beings doing real work on a real car.
Very sad - and embarrassing for those who dove in to this team.
That's all I have to say.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
All I know is that I spent time in the USF1 shop and saw real human beings doing real work on a real car.
Very sad - and embarrassing for those who dove in to this team.
That's all I have to say.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
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02-17-2010, 10:28 AM
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02-17-2010, 11:21 AM
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Not a surprise at all but that still sucks big time. Even though it looked very unlikely to happen, I was hoping it would've.
The fact that they had to do "everything US" and that they didn't even try to buy Toyota stuff was stupid and in a way, foolishly arrogant.
The fact that they had to do "everything US" and that they didn't even try to buy Toyota stuff was stupid and in a way, foolishly arrogant.
02-17-2010, 01:13 PM
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