I hate to say it, but this is standard practice for dignitary protection/VIP motorcades. You never know from where a legit threat will emerge...that Hyundai could just as liikely have been full of explosives.






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I have run 13 DE track days at NJMP with 3 PCA regions and have never experienced any police presence. Hopefully this past weekends activity was an isolated incident. I will be down there again next weekend.

 

It is interesting that the track even let the police into the private property. I would think that they could simply deny access without a warrant of some type from the police.

 

[QUOTE=Veloce Raptor;7038719]I hate to say it, but this is standard practice for dignitary protection/VIP motorcades. You never know from where a legit threat will emerge...that Hyundai could just as liikely have been full of explosives.


You have to be pretty dim to pull into the middle of a motorcade in the first place.

I was psyched to go try out NJMP now that I'm back in the NE but I don't think I can go 5 mph unless I ride the clutch so I think I'll give it a pass. Looks like VIR is my home track again.

 

There is ALWAYS a cop at NJMP, often the same guy. Apparently, and this is only a rumor I've heard, the troopers have an office on the property. Prior to this, he only drove around, occasionally walking through the garage, maybe looking for someone in shorts on the hot pit (state law regulates that, too, in NJ), and seemed to do little other than waste the state's money. Guess they decided he has to pay his own way by writing tickets.

 

Whole thing is hard to believe.

 

Every single person that was issued a summons should pleasd not guilty and contest the ticket. Maybe even get just one lawyer to fight for all of them.

Total bull****.

 

and do what... waste a whole day (trackday??) to sit in some town in court all day for $20?? i betcha the cop also made sure he only ticketed the cars w/ out of state, waaaay out of state, tags and none from nj got tix. just a hunch.



personally, i'd just start parking my car on the hot side of the pit wall.

 

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You don't show up to traffic court with your lawyer.

 

huh? you don't or i don't? if it's bad enough then you do.

then again, having a traffic attorney w/ you for $1k/day for a $20 tix still seems wasteful. that attorney fee will cover a lifetime of njmp seat belt tickets

 

Are you certain about the stated facts above? Is it possible that word-of mouth storytelling kinda exaggerated what actually may have happened?

I have spent about 30 days at NJMP in the past year and I have often seen troopers there. However, to the best of my knowledge (and in accordance with existing state laws), they do random checks on seat harness installations and ensure that the belts are not out-of-date. My understanding is that in the event of a "violation" (for example, expired harness dates) the worst case scenario is likely that the car is not allowed on track. Never heard of a "citation", as in a ticket, being issued to the drover. Also, never heard of a ticket being issued to anyone driving in the paddock around 15 mph or slightly over.

I'm not disputing what you have stated here, and not defending the actions of the trooper if they are indeed true, but simply inquiring if these are hard, known facts or if the story just grew as it got passed around from mouth-to mouth. I have spent enough time at NJMP and often observed this trooper, and find the issuance of tickets quite hard to believe.

Best...

 

I think this is the section that deals with DE guys (it's listed immediately before the previously quoted section)

§ 13:62-3.7 Safety belts, shoulder harness and crotch belt
(b) Safety belts for driving schools, time trials, lapping days, and promotional and tour events must meet the standards required by the sanctioning body or event organizer. At a minimum, original vehicle equipment DOT FMVSS 208, incorporated herein by reference and available at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...VSS/index.html, seat belts or DOT FMVSS 209, incorporated herein by reference and available at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...VSS/index.html, aftermarket seat belts shall be required.

 

I'm willing to bet that if someone from far enough away showed up and was told that they couldn't run on the track, then some words might be exchanged, and a ticket might then be issued.

 

Y'all keep that yankee BS up there.