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Old 11-02-2009 | 01:03 AM
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As ****ed up as California is, New Jersey is worse!!!! Cops giving tickets at race tracks, can't pump your own fuel, and it can only be held in red jugs?!?!?!? What other laws does "Jersey have?

Fight the tickets and BOYCOTT the track until the cops are gone. Seriously, how do you guys put up with this? The track should be a sanctuary from this bull****....
Old 11-02-2009 | 01:39 AM
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well the red jug thing is pretty much standard law isn't it? i wouldn't want to see someone carrying around gallons of gasoline in a milk jug. like blue jugs for kerosene and yellow for diesel.

but yea ticketing cars that are on private race track and not on public highways is BS
Old 11-02-2009 | 03:47 AM
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No, Red jugs is not standard law. I have several fuel jugs which are white.

Guess I don't need to goto NJMP, I feel no need to support a facility that supports this.
Old 11-02-2009 | 07:54 AM
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No, Red jugs is not standard law. I have several fuel jugs which are white.
What we commonly refer to as fuel jugs the manufacturer (Scribner Plastics for example) calls a "utility jug".
Old 11-02-2009 | 08:03 AM
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This is a very strange story!
If you get black flagged, do you end up getting a body cavity search?
Old 11-02-2009 | 09:32 AM
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Hey Eric,

Nice video! Looks like I was slowing you up a bit...Sorry! It was my first time racing at Thunder, and I still had a few corners to figure out. Nice clean racing with you and Martin, though. Wish I had windshield wipers!
Old 11-02-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MPD47
No, Red jugs is not standard law. I have several fuel jugs which are white.

Guess I don't need to goto NJMP, I feel no need to support a facility that supports this.
I don't think the track "supports" it as much as it is subject to it. In NJ, the laws are written that the tracks are regulated by the state and the police get to enforce the laws.

That being said, the track must know that this isn't good for business. I'd have to think that a well-timed campaign contribution may go a long way.
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Darren
The cop was WRONG about the code on the harnesses -- the two year requirement shows up under Oval Racing, drag racing, etc, but not under:

SUBCHAPTER 3. SAFETY REQUIREMENTS FOR VEHICLES AND PERSONNEL: ROAD RACING AND HIGH PERFORMANCE DRIVING SCHOOLS

§ 13:62-3.7 Safety belts, shoulder harness and crotch belt
(c) All vehicles (except motorcycles) participating in
racing, racing event practice, qualifying or testing shall require
a minimum of a five-point safety belt for each occupant
meeting one of the following standards:
1. SFI 16.1 or SFI 16.5, incorporated herein by
reference and available at http://www. sfifoundation.com,
seat belts shall be valid until December 31st of the second
year after the date of manufacture punched or indicated on
the SFI tag. There shall be one original tag attached to one
of the two shoulder belts, one original tag attached to one
of the lap belts and a third original tag attached to the
crotch belt.
2. FIA 8853, incorporated herein by reference and
available at http://www.fia.com/ spor t /
Regulations/standregs.html, seat belts shall be valid for
five years from the year of manufacture. Belts are
stamped or printed with an expiration year. FIA seat belts
expire on December 31 of the year printed or stamped on
the FIA tag. FIA tags are located on each leg of the
shoulder belt and lap belt, and on one leg of the crotch
strap.
Interesting. If I'm reading this correctly, this law shouldn't apply to DE participants as they are not racing or practicing for racing.
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Bull**** like this will not stand a court challenge. But the PRNJ strikes again! And you dingdongs want to re-elect Corzine, whose own wreck at 95 MPH, w/o seatbelts, in a State Trooper Suburban showed how some pigs are more equal than others in your laughhole of a state.






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My son was on his way to work last Saturday morning when he saw the Corzine motorcade closing in on his ***. OK,so he moves over. Some guy in a Hyundai decides to get into the fast lane in between two of the unmarked cars in the motorcade. The unmarked car behind the guy moves up a kisses his bumper. The dude moves over and a marked trooper car pulls out of the motorcade lights him up. WTF
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by krystar
well the red jug thing is pretty much standard law isn't it?
We've got green, black, blue and clear race fuel jugs. You can't carry around oxygenated race fuel in clear/red/blue jugs.
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian P
Interesting. If I'm reading this correctly, this law shouldn't apply to DE participants as they are not racing or practicing for racing.
Brian,

If you look at the header it mentioned DE along with racing. Worded such that DE seems to be included. The paddock speed of 5mph is going to be broken every minute of the day.

I could just see it on National TV at a Grand race with a DP car pulled over and JPM getting a ticket handed to him. " Drivers License please". Whaaaaaaa? I don't drive car, I race the car!!!!!!!!!!!"
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DrJupeman
No "we" don't.
Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Yeah, OK, so a few of you have your head screwed on correctly.







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More than a few, you transplant! So, you are just figuring this out about NJ, or expressing your firm grasp of the obvious?

BTW, this was all covered back when NJMP was first opening. At that time the major issue was the State's regulations around helmets.
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MUSSBERGER
The unmarked car behind the guy moves up a kisses his bumper.
Above the law seems to be the prevailing attitude of State Troopers in general. And it seems worse in NJ than most placed.
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:22 AM
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its private property??? that will be a track i wont waste my money on... im sure the track owners should get involved
Old 11-02-2009 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bobt993
Brian,

If you look at the header it mentioned DE along with racing. Worded such that DE seems to be included. The paddock speed of 5mph is going to be broken every minute of the day.

I could just see it on National TV at a Grand race with a DP car pulled over and JPM getting a ticket handed to him. " Drivers License please". Whaaaaaaa? I don't drive car, I race the car!!!!!!!!!!!"
It mentions high performance driving schools. My argument would be that some schools either run races or hold sessions that are testing for races and that's when the law would be applicable.

The rest of the statute clearly lists when the law should be applied and it seems that a normal DE would be exempt. I wonder if an unregisteted car would even be allowed in a DE though.



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