Why windows down?
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from the safety POV, porsche argues it's safer to the the windows closed in case of an accident.
regarding extracting a person from a car, it's simple to break a window to get them out if need be. hell, emergency crews can cut off the roof.
i'd much rather use signals to indicate somebody should pass. both hands on the wheel and you eliminate all that wind noise and distraction
regarding extracting a person from a car, it's simple to break a window to get them out if need be. hell, emergency crews can cut off the roof.
i'd much rather use signals to indicate somebody should pass. both hands on the wheel and you eliminate all that wind noise and distraction
#17
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regarding extracting a person from a car, it's simple to break a window to get them out if need be. hell, emergency crews can cut off the roof.
i'd much rather use signals to indicate somebody should pass. both hands on the wheel and you eliminate all that wind noise and distraction
Regarding the distraction. I've gotten so used to running with the window opened that I was offered to run with them up at this last event (in the pouring rain). Mid way through the session, as the rain slacked off, I put it back down since I'm more used to it. I don't find the noise distracting. 951s blowing black clouds and old 911 with their rich mixture I do.
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Well I'm glad there's some debate about the whole thing! I ran the logic through my mind and came up with similar pro and con arguments.
#19
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Car at 140mph. Wall at 100-110mph. Glass at 80-90mph. Get the picture? Yes signaling is one of the main/popular reasons. Turn signals would not work as most nubbies end up turning on the windshield wipers or turn signals during their first track days. Takinging your hand off during the straight is probably helpful as most drivers have a death grip on the wheel and signaling a pass may actually help them. i have a routine where I automatically check mirrors, check gauges and flex fingers on the straights - it gives you a few seconds to collect yourslf as well.
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Besides, while running with the windows closed you miss all the "signals' your car gives you that are mainly audible (tires complaining before they break loose,...........). Hearing your engine whether going up or down the gears is just plain sexy while racing (sorry DEing).
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In truth, windows down is to make it easy for event organizers to steal Porsche Radios
#23
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Windows down is for emergency access to the occupants. Period.
One stupid [IMHO] restriction by many DE operations is to ban the use of window nets in race-prepared cars in the name of making point-bys more obvious. Now THAT makes no sense. Its easy to give a clear and visible point with most nets in place.
One stupid [IMHO] restriction by many DE operations is to ban the use of window nets in race-prepared cars in the name of making point-bys more obvious. Now THAT makes no sense. Its easy to give a clear and visible point with most nets in place.
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Don't want any pictures of that. Those numbers = Dead, closed casket. Window up or down is chair aranging at 110 mph into a fixed surface.
To me it looks about 50/50 pro con to windows up down with the point by not considered. With the point by added in it is windows down. No confusing the arm and pointing direction. Blinkers can be missread or missused.
To me it looks about 50/50 pro con to windows up down with the point by not considered. With the point by added in it is windows down. No confusing the arm and pointing direction. Blinkers can be missread or missused.
#25
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The reason Most DE's require the window to be down is to allow an unconscious driver to be extracted by the corner workers if the door won't open after a crash.
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So in events with windows up rules, your stay to the right of the straight and turn on the left turn indicator to let the vehicle behind you know to pass on the left?
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I do not agree with using turn signals, and would not run in an event held that way. They are too slow to apply and process; a hand signal is much faster and clearer. We cannot even get drivers to let others by in a consistent manner when the line moves across the track to the next turn, what would a turn signal mean in that situation? And how consistent would it be? My unhumble opinion? Open your window & stick your hand out.
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2016 Ford Transit Connect Titanium LWB
2018 Tesla Model 3 - Electricity can be fun!
Retired Club Racer & National PCA Instructor
Past Flames:
1994 RS America Club Racer
2004 GT3 Track Car
1984 911 Carrera Club Racer
1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.