Race car drivers are not athletes
08-15-2008, 12:47 PM
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George Carlin had some opinions on this matter (starting about 2:45 into this clip):
http://www.blinkx.com/video/george-c...ajC3ZXln3XGLwg
http://www.blinkx.com/video/george-c...ajC3ZXln3XGLwg
08-15-2008, 05:37 PM
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Since we're on sports and athleticism, quite a while ago Scientific American devoted a whole issue to sports.
The editors determined the toughest single thing to do in sports was to hit a Major League pitch.
The editors determined the toughest single thing to do in sports was to hit a Major League pitch.
08-15-2008, 06:56 PM
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A couple ways to look at athletic 'capacity'.
IMO, I think you can check off quite a few on these lists re. motorsports.
ABCDEs = Agility, Balance, Coordination, Dance, Explosiveness/Endurance
Endurance
- aerobic & anaerobic fitness
- willingness/capacity to suffer
Strength & Power
- based on demands of activity (motorsports = core & neck)
Motor Skills
- sport specific neuromuscular coordination
Mental Skills
- motivation
- focus
- determination
- tactics & strategy
There are an awful lot of people who are "fit" - as defined by narrow physiological measures (strength, power, endurance) - but have poor motor skills and inadequate mental competencies for competition.
IMO, I think you can check off quite a few on these lists re. motorsports.
ABCDEs = Agility, Balance, Coordination, Dance, Explosiveness/Endurance
Endurance
- aerobic & anaerobic fitness
- willingness/capacity to suffer
Strength & Power
- based on demands of activity (motorsports = core & neck)
Motor Skills
- sport specific neuromuscular coordination
Mental Skills
- motivation
- focus
- determination
- tactics & strategy
There are an awful lot of people who are "fit" - as defined by narrow physiological measures (strength, power, endurance) - but have poor motor skills and inadequate mental competencies for competition.
08-16-2008, 12:41 AM
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08-17-2008, 04:01 PM
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Carl Lewis was a top sprinter, but couldnt do a darn thing but run in straight line!
I agree with most of the classifications of what a sport is, but one quality that has been left out is Courage!
thats why stand by the qualifications of a "real" sport being one that has a risk of death or serous injury. everything else is just social games
Mk
I agree with most of the classifications of what a sport is, but one quality that has been left out is Courage!
thats why stand by the qualifications of a "real" sport being one that has a risk of death or serous injury. everything else is just social games
Mk
A couple ways to look at athletic 'capacity'.
IMO, I think you can check off quite a few on these lists re. motorsports.
ABCDEs = Agility, Balance, Coordination, Dance, Explosiveness/Endurance
Endurance
- aerobic & anaerobic fitness
- willingness/capacity to suffer
Strength & Power
- based on demands of activity (motorsports = core & neck)
Motor Skills
- sport specific neuromuscular coordination
Mental Skills
- motivation
- focus
- determination
- tactics & strategy
There are an awful lot of people who are "fit" - as defined by narrow physiological measures (strength, power, endurance) - but have poor motor skills and inadequate mental competencies for competition.
IMO, I think you can check off quite a few on these lists re. motorsports.
ABCDEs = Agility, Balance, Coordination, Dance, Explosiveness/Endurance
Endurance
- aerobic & anaerobic fitness
- willingness/capacity to suffer
Strength & Power
- based on demands of activity (motorsports = core & neck)
Motor Skills
- sport specific neuromuscular coordination
Mental Skills
- motivation
- focus
- determination
- tactics & strategy
There are an awful lot of people who are "fit" - as defined by narrow physiological measures (strength, power, endurance) - but have poor motor skills and inadequate mental competencies for competition.
08-18-2008, 12:05 PM
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First of all, there are other things that are harder than that, just as an example, in ice hockey, every 10th shot is a goal which makes it harder if determined by how many times you try. Besides, if I'd stand there with a baseball bat, I'm guessing I could hit (by luck) if they'd throw the ball at me, say 500 times but there's no way I could score a goal if I tried 500 times because I wouldn't even have a chance to get to the other team's zone to make the damn shot, let alone score.
And let's look at say, gymnastics. I'm not a big fan but what those guys do on those two rings that hang from the ceiling is something I couldn't even dream of doing but hitting a baseball seems much more realistic.
Or how about driving flatout with F1 car through Eay Rouge?
Somehow I think an "average Joe" can hit a baseball but not go through Eau Rouge flat...
Or how about clearing a 50 ft tabletop jump with a motocross bike?
Again, hitting a baseball seems much more doable for a someone who has just been pulled from a street for testing these two "stunts".
08-18-2008, 02:17 PM
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try polevaulting if you want to try something "tough" to do. However, all that flipping motorcycle stuff is quite amazing.
I think that was on the list as well.
mk
I think that was on the list as well.
mk
I saw that and think it's such bull**** (didn't they determine it by explaining that only every 7th throw is a hit?).
First of all, there are other things that are harder than that, just as an example, in ice hockey, every 10th shot is a goal which makes it harder if determined by how many times you try. Besides, if I'd stand there with a baseball bat, I'm guessing I could hit (by luck) if they'd throw the ball at me, say 500 times but there's no way I could score a goal if I tried 500 times because I wouldn't even have a chance to get to the other team's zone to make the damn shot, let alone score.
And let's look at say, gymnastics. I'm not a big fan but what those guys do on those two rings that hang from the ceiling is something I couldn't even dream of doing but hitting a baseball seems much more realistic.
Or how about driving flatout with F1 car through Eay Rouge?
Somehow I think an "average Joe" can hit a baseball but not go through Eau Rouge flat...
Or how about clearing a 50 ft tabletop jump with a motocross bike?
Again, hitting a baseball seems much more doable for a someone who has just been pulled from a street for testing these two "stunts".
First of all, there are other things that are harder than that, just as an example, in ice hockey, every 10th shot is a goal which makes it harder if determined by how many times you try. Besides, if I'd stand there with a baseball bat, I'm guessing I could hit (by luck) if they'd throw the ball at me, say 500 times but there's no way I could score a goal if I tried 500 times because I wouldn't even have a chance to get to the other team's zone to make the damn shot, let alone score.
And let's look at say, gymnastics. I'm not a big fan but what those guys do on those two rings that hang from the ceiling is something I couldn't even dream of doing but hitting a baseball seems much more realistic.
Or how about driving flatout with F1 car through Eay Rouge?
Somehow I think an "average Joe" can hit a baseball but not go through Eau Rouge flat...
Or how about clearing a 50 ft tabletop jump with a motocross bike?
Again, hitting a baseball seems much more doable for a someone who has just been pulled from a street for testing these two "stunts".