Ritter v4.0

Thanks Dave. Which model do you have it on?

007DT

Sport Model...

dan212

If you have a 6 point harness, its a no-brainer. The only part of your body that moves under impact is your helmet weighted head/neck UNLESS it is secured. You assign a value to that.

I have to original version. I bought the sliding tether kit to update it, but haven't even bothered to install it. I don't notice the HANS at all on the track and the old style is really just a minor hassle when backing up or trying to talk to someone in the pit. Point is... Even without the sliding tether, I find it comfortable.

ltc

Link to SFI 38.1 approved head and neck restraint list
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-and-drivers-education-forum/417810-sfi-38-1-approved-list-and-links.html

As for trying one on, most online retailers/shops will allow you to return it, as long as it's in new condition (if you can't find a local shop)

ltc

The R3 has been worn by instructors, since it can be used with 3 point belts.
Some people use the padding for the R3, some don't....I guess it depends on the person and the type of seat.
There is a 'rent to own' program offered for the R3:
http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=82


FWIW, there are other H&N restraints that are 'worn' like the R3 (no affiliation, no SFI38.1 debate, not another H&N restraint JIHAD intended)
http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/

Tucker helmet harness:
http://www.teamtechmotorsports.com/r...erharness.html
D-cel:
http://www.hutchensdevice.com/dcelharness/dcel.html
Hutchens:
http://www.hutchensdevice.com/hutche...ensdevice.html

garrett376

David, since this is for DE only, want to buy my ISAAC for a price much less than a HANS? It will protect you just as well, and gives you excellent freedom of motion, and is not as specific in the seat/harness setup. PM me (...please)

James-man

OK. For the equal restraint rule.

Theoretically speaking, why is there an equal restraint rule for the driver and passenger?

Now, expand that to consider what is equal/unequal about:

[x] Left Seat = Right Seat
[x] Left harness and harness mounts = right harness and harness mounts
[ ] Left Hans and Right Hans. Oops the guy in the right seat has no HANs.
[x] Okey dokey artichokey

Other safety:

[x] Helmet left seat and helmet right seat
[ ] Quality of Helmet left seat = quality of helmet in right seat
[ ] Gloves left seat and gloves right seat
[ ] Nomex worn in left seat and Nomex worn in right seat
[?] Access to fire extinguisher/suppression in Left seat and Access to fire exting/suppress in right seat

What am I missing?

I still track a street car but have instructed in a number of cars equipped with have harnesses. One day I may have to sit with a student driver that will make me uneasy enough to request a switch with an instructor that has a HANS.

Go ahead and laugh at me: I still have lap and shoulder belt and therefore no HANS. I have never heard any discussion of HANS being required in the passenger seat of a harness equipped car. Should this be coming?

Hope this isn't too off topic. If so, I can start anew.

Thanks.

Marc Shaw

I have to admit at the last lapping session I went to I felt like a bit of a weenie in my Oakley Carbon-X unders/balaclava/gloves, Isaac, 6-point harness, SPG seats, and DAS roll bar. There were other guys there driving in shorts and t-shirts so, for a moment, I wondered why I was sweating in the fire-proof suit and taking 3 extra minutes to get on track having to strap in to the harness, etc.














Then I remembered how much I like seeing my wife, my 5 years old son, and basic things like walking so I strapped in and went on track to go 220 km/h - racing or DE it is a dangerous sport/hobby so you'd be foolish to not minimize risk any where and any way you can.

Marc

Chris M.

Shorts and t-shirts? You weren't the weenie at that event....

Ritter v4.0

I feel the same way; I have great brakes, great helmet, great suit, shoes and gloves- the HD is the missing piece. Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

A white t-shirt won't event prevent skin cancer.