ltc

With some of the recent H&N restraint discussions, I just thought I'd put up a list of the devices which are (AFAIK) the 38.1 approved devices as of this date:

(usual disclaimer, no affiliations, yadayada...)

Hubbard-Downing HANS Device (the 800# gorilla of the H&N restraint world):

Leatt Brace - MotoR (yes, the toilet seat, $695, due out in about a week or two):
http://www.leatt-brace.com/themes/le...O_R_manual.pdf

LFT Technologies R3 Device (worn, not harness dependent, previously discussed):
http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/?ID=27

Safety Solutions Hutchens-II Device (looks like a snake on your back):
http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/?ID=22

Safety Solutions Hutchens Hybrid Device (worn, inbetween an X and II device)
http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/?ID=14

Safety Solutions Hutchens Hybrid X Device (the kitchen sink of worn devices)
http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/?ID=23

I don't recall the Hybrid X being discussed here before.
Interesting that seem to have gone to somewhat of an integrated foam collar scheme to protect against side impact forces/tension, test data shows it is superior to the HANS in this regard:
http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com...Comp_Chart.pdf

Again, not looking to start a H&N Jihad, just posting info for those who might be looking at 38.1 H&N restraints for the coming season.

Benton

Bringing this thread BTT; I'm looking at the hybrid over an R3 for the superior angular impact protection. The X just looks too bulky and restrictive, and I read it was designed for drag racing and the designer didn't see it being big in other forms of racing (presumably a result of limited head movement?).

So to my question: Does anyone use a Hybrid?

gbaker

Test data?

ltc

If someone were to pry my ISAAC away from me, I would probably give serious consideration to the Leatt Moto R and evaluate it (based simply on the performance of the Moto Kart/GPX in my son's accident this past February).

Yes, it looks like a toilet seat, but they may actually be onto something, not really sure yet.

Benton

Unless I'm misinterpreting it, the Leatt's test data isn't very impressive. I'm sure it is wonderful for a kart or motorcycle, but I think one should take full advantage of tethering the helmet to something when that option is available.

Here is the 0 degree test for Leatt: http://www.leatt-brace.com/av/r_0_b.jpg Take note of the tension numbers--pretty darn high! According to the Hybrid chart, the pass/fail for SFI cert (don't feel like looking it up) is around 3100N in tension. The Leatt is 2866N.

Here is the Leatt 30 degree test numbers: http://www.leatt-brace.com/av/r_30_b.jpg

Here is a link to the Hybrid's (http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com/?ID=14) test data, compare this to the Leatt: http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com...MoreAngles.pdf --Neck tension is around 700N for the Hybrid.

And also: http://www.safetysolutionsracing.com...HighImpact.pdf

PS: This isn't directed at anyone specific... The ISAAC may be great, but I don't care. I have to have something with a certification for NASA.