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Old 02-27-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
Both feet in applies when you are driving off under control. The last thing you want to do in a 911 when the back-end comes around in a corner is hit the brake. While it may work in a front engine car that understeers, it won't work in a 911 with all the weight out back. Hitting the brakes in a corner can turn a slide into a violent spin.

You are supposed put both feet in to drive off safely if you drop a tire(s) off the track or if you know you will not make a turn. Wait to slow down enough to re-enter the track safely. What makes a good driver? A good driver goes off facing forward, not backwards.
No argument that it is always better to drive the car off the track rather than spin it off out of control (sideways, backwards, etc) and yes, I'm very familiar with the 911 rear end swap. The scenario I described in my question was where the car has already spun on the track and come to a rest on the track surface (my term 'both feet in') with traffic following behind. But I understand what you are saying.
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Originally Posted by 02 Carrera
Both feet in applies when you are driving off under control. The last thing you want to do in a 911 when the back-end comes around in a corner is hit the brake. While it may work in a front engine car that understeers, it won't work in a 911 with all the weight out back. Hitting the brakes in a corner can turn a slide into a violent spin.

You are supposed put both feet in to drive off safely if you drop a tire(s) off the track or if you know you will not make a turn. Wait to slow down enough to re-enter the track safely. What makes a good driver? A good driver goes off facing forward, not backwards.
Both feet in ALWAYS applies!!!!!!!! Especially when you are spinning out of control. The worst thing you can do when back end comes around is not to have both feet in. Do you even understand why you need to have both feet in a spin?

You are obviously not a good driver....

It's scary when someone with intermediate skills (at best) makes this type of comment.

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Old 02-27-2008, 12:48 PM
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ya, both feet in is crucial...keeps from ancillary movement...atleast if your both feet in, your heading in the SAME direction off the track...god knows where you end up with the FOOT STILL IN THE THROTTLE>>>>> WHY are people doing this?????


What amazes me is how people think their pride is more important than just having a safe result when an incident occurs...this isnt a ALMS race where Porsche is battling Ferrari for the title...most of these are DE events!


Sorry for the broken commentary, but wow...
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Originally Posted by George A
Both feet in ALWAYS applies!!!!!!!! Especially when you are spinning out of control. The worst thing you can do when back end comes around is not to have both feet in. Do you even understand why you need to have both feet in a spin?

You are obviously not a good driver....

It's scary when someone with intermediate skills (at best) makes this type of comment.

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ABSO-FRIKKING-LUTELY AGREE!!!

Loren, STFU, please.
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yep, both feet in when you know you aint gonna make it. and we usually dont know we aint gonna make it until its too late.

i have had cars gone off in front of me and shot back on track b/c he didn't have both fee in.... it becomes very unpredictable for the car behind the troubled car.
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Originally Posted by mooty
yep, both feet in when you know you aint gonna make it. and we usually dont know we aint gonna make it until its too late.

i have had cars gone off in front of me and shot back on track b/c he didn't have both fee in.... it becomes very unpredictable for the car behind the troubled car.
Yep. the classic J-hook back across the track when they release the brakes.
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...and 02 carrera's "advice" will lead to this, or worse. It might get someone killed.
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A good place to practice both feet in is the skidpad. Accept the habit of knowing when it's too late to catch the car. I kept pushing into Oak last year (VIR), until finally looping my car. BFI, nice 360, looked at the flagger, in gear and out of there. If I had tried to save it, I would have either hit the tree or farmed at track out. Throttle will usually hook you right across the track and hit sh*t.
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...and 02 carrera's "advice" will lead to this, or worse.
You want to see it get REAL ugly, try not going both feet in @ an entrance onto an oval from an infield course(think "Bus Stop" to back straight @ Daytona, infield to back straight @ TMS, "Larry/Moe/Curly to front straight @ TWS) Want to get up close & personal with a wall REAL quick, that's a great way to do it. In fact, I remember a certain Z06 @ TMS a few years ago that........ah, never mind. He might read this

PS: Just thought of a better one: The Kink! There's a great place to play hero! If you want to see your life pass before your eyes, go through there sideways in a cupcar sometime. That's a a definite doo doo moment I don't think I'll try that EVER again!
Old 02-27-2008, 04:53 PM
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Just to pile on....try no 2 feet in mid corner at turn 17 at Sebring. You will DEFINITELY hit something....and hard.
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CODE BROWN !!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by PedroNole
Just to pile on....try no 2 feet in mid corner at turn 17 at Sebring. You will DEFINITELY hit something....and hard.
eeeeeew! Don't do that to me!
Old 02-27-2008, 04:59 PM
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Man I always though it was: you put your left foot in, you put your right foot in and spin it all about.

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Suhweeeet Mark! Great pic!
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