View Poll Results: Which Tire for first R-Comp on a 993
BFG R1
4
4.12%
Toyo Ra-1
55
56.70%
Mich Pilot Sport Cup
31
31.96%
Kuhmo v710
7
7.22%
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First R-Compounds - Which Ones
11-25-2007, 11:42 AM
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re: driving slow cars fast. . . great when you beat up on experienced drivers in fast cars, yet you always have an excuse when your plan doesn't quite work out. 
You've done a stellar job resisting moditus. . . but when you go with a dedicated track car, it's hard not to stop on the hardware side when there are no longer any street compromises. Have you gotten data yet? I was thinking that a data acquisition system will be in order once I get back into the groove.
You've done a stellar job resisting moditus. . . but when you go with a dedicated track car, it's hard not to stop on the hardware side when there are no longer any street compromises. Have you gotten data yet? I was thinking that a data acquisition system will be in order once I get back into the groove.
11-25-2007, 12:08 PM
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I rode with a driver last weekend who had a new set of R888's on his Spec Miata. By mid session they were hooked up, none of the squirm and wear-in period required with unshaved RA-1's.
Greg, I run the Azenis on my Miata. I think they are better than an unsheved RA-1, but not nearly as fast as an RA-1 once you start wearing the tread down to optimum depth. The big problem is that they tend to overheat and get greasy. On my 2100lb. Miata it was not a problem, but on anything above 2500lbs. it probably would be. For lighter cars they have to be about the best street/track compromise.
It wasn't on the list and it's not an R comp, but I'm curious of opinions on the Falken Azenis 615's. I've been curious about them as I've heard them described as about halfway between street and R comp. And they are relatively cheap. I thought about getting a set for my M Coupe which is serving as my backup DE car currently but is still a daily driver.
11-25-2007, 12:13 PM
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it's ok i get passed by you. you have been driving before i was born!... oops did i just reveal your age, LOL.
so yellow 6gt3 is fast and yellow 993 is fast.
my next car WILL BE YELLOW.
11-25-2007, 12:14 PM
#49
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Why don't we just swap straight out??
I'll even include transportation to the West Coast
I wouldn't want you to be embarrassed
Hell, I'll even paint it yellow if you want!!
11-25-2007, 12:16 PM
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i know the feeling, that's why i buy my cars b/n december and jan.... but i do live in sunny CA. so my logic is rather flawed.. i just need an excuse.
I find it ironic that drivers will spend lots of money on "go fast" equipment to get tenth's, while their driving leaves seconds on the table.....
If I lived in a warmer climate where I could drive year round I'd buy less crap for the car. I'm definitely guilty. It's when the car is in storage for the winter is when it happens .. and the only thing left is read forums, search for parts and "upgrade" .
If I lived in a warmer climate where I could drive year round I'd buy less crap for the car. I'm definitely guilty. It's when the car is in storage for the winter is when it happens .. and the only thing left is read forums, search for parts and "upgrade" .
11-25-2007, 01:09 PM
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11-25-2007, 01:59 PM
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Feedback from the tire is important when moving from a street to a R comp tire. Money, performance and longevity aside I think the RA-1 has the advantage.
I had a long weekend with a student that drove hard but was on quiet tires for the first time and perhaps a little early for them. I could read them but he was having a time of it for a while.
11-25-2007, 02:17 PM
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I havent bought a new tire since 2001! find out when the speedGT world challenge comes to town and buy a few sets used!
as was said, they are good right to the cords!
mk
as was said, they are good right to the cords!
mk
11-25-2007, 02:20 PM
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Don speaks the truth....
As we read below, "....I buy used Speed Touring Car tires since I run 235-40-17's all around!" 235/40/17 is a difficult tire size for 993 owners...they are too low profile for the front and when used with a 275/40/17 rear will create a condition with too much rolling radius delta front to rear, and off will go your ABS!!!!
Last edited by Martin S.; 11-25-2007 at 04:30 PM.
11-25-2007, 02:46 PM
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11-25-2007, 04:17 PM
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Do you say that about the R1's because they wear bad? Just Curious because I have a set and have 2 track days & 2 Autocrosses with unusual outer & inner wear on the rears. I'm not sure what to expect from these. They grip great.
11-25-2007, 04:28 PM
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I don't have enough time on the tires, my first set of R1's, to know if they wear badly or not. I think I have about six heat cycles on them from the Summit Point race.
The Hoosier R6's and BFG R1's are the stickiest DOT tires out there. For a DE where lap times don't matter quite as much, I prefer to run MPSC's which are almost as good as R6's and R1's but last much longer. When I burn through my current set of MPSC's, I'll switch over to shaved RA-1's for DE and practice.
11-25-2007, 05:05 PM
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Don't miss this suggestion. I'm on my second set of NT-01s and they are very good, better than the 3 sets of RA-1s I have had. Get the Nittos from Discount Tire Direct at decent prices.