Etiquette advice needed......
09-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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BWAHAHAHAHA.... try 130hp sometime then! I can't make a pass in open DE without a charity lift. Today I had a Saturn Ion in my group. He pulled me on every straight but I was on him in every corner. But he didn't like to lift so I'd get a point by as he pulled away from me.
He got a little better as he got used to it happening but still...
John's graphics are right on... I need a set of those!
He got a little better as he got used to it happening but still...
John's graphics are right on... I need a set of those!
09-15-2007, 12:03 AM
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09-15-2007, 12:06 AM
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Paolo, Brian's right. You don't want to be like the guy in this video getting passed... 
Don't be like this Boxster S guy
Don't be like this Boxster S guy
09-15-2007, 12:23 AM
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09-15-2007, 02:37 AM
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I love this thread.
DMD: I would think that a man with a healthy imagination and access to dental instruments could solve this problem. If not, I suggest you rent Marathon Man.
Z-Man: +1 on the invisibility cloak for 944s. +2 for 135hp NAs like mine. +3 since it's NNJR and I'm in green like, for life. Hope to see you up at the Glen. I'll be in the 944 in, um, green.
I actually encountered this problem a couple of weeks ago. I was at Lime Rock in an upper intermediate group(!) with passing allowed in all straights after a point-by. I spent an entire session crawling up the butt of a Spec Miata but didn't get a point-by. Being a good DE-er, I didn't pass him. I went up to him after the session and politely introduced myself and politely explained that I would have appreciated a point-by or two. Equally politely, he told me that he had seen me back there, and wondered why I didn't just take the pass. Even more politely, I mentioned something about the "no point-by, no pass" rule. At that point he became so polite that he didn't say anything. He just smiled and let me read the thought balloon over his head: "Son, if you're in an upper run group, the point-by rule is just a suggestion. No one is waiting for you to point them by, so you shouldn't expect any more from me. Nice car, by the way."
I would never dream of taking that approach at a PCA event, especially as a greenie, but he did have a point.
DMD: I would think that a man with a healthy imagination and access to dental instruments could solve this problem. If not, I suggest you rent Marathon Man.
Z-Man: +1 on the invisibility cloak for 944s. +2 for 135hp NAs like mine. +3 since it's NNJR and I'm in green like, for life. Hope to see you up at the Glen. I'll be in the 944 in, um, green.
I actually encountered this problem a couple of weeks ago. I was at Lime Rock in an upper intermediate group(!) with passing allowed in all straights after a point-by. I spent an entire session crawling up the butt of a Spec Miata but didn't get a point-by. Being a good DE-er, I didn't pass him. I went up to him after the session and politely introduced myself and politely explained that I would have appreciated a point-by or two. Equally politely, he told me that he had seen me back there, and wondered why I didn't just take the pass. Even more politely, I mentioned something about the "no point-by, no pass" rule. At that point he became so polite that he didn't say anything. He just smiled and let me read the thought balloon over his head: "Son, if you're in an upper run group, the point-by rule is just a suggestion. No one is waiting for you to point them by, so you shouldn't expect any more from me. Nice car, by the way."
I would never dream of taking that approach at a PCA event, especially as a greenie, but he did have a point.
09-15-2007, 08:05 AM
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I actually encountered this problem a couple of weeks ago. I was at Lime Rock in an upper intermediate group(!) with passing allowed in all straights after a point-by. I spent an entire session crawling up the butt of a Spec Miata but didn't get a point-by. Being a good DE-er, I didn't pass him. I went up to him after the session and politely introduced myself and politely explained that I would have appreciated a point-by or two. Equally politely, he told me that he had seen me back there, and wondered why I didn't just take the pass. Even more politely, I mentioned something about the "no point-by, no pass" rule. At that point he became so polite that he didn't say anything. He just smiled and let me read the thought balloon over his head: "Son, if you're in an upper run group, the point-by rule is just a suggestion. No one is waiting for you to point them by, so you shouldn't expect any more from me. Nice car, by the way."
I would never dream of taking that approach at a PCA event, especially as a greenie, but he did have a point.
I would never dream of taking that approach at a PCA event, especially as a greenie, but he did have a point.
He would get dissinvited - and told specifically why - if I had anything to do with it. It helps to know the CI!
09-15-2007, 08:11 AM
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If someone gives a point by and doesn't lift, pull out and stay there. If you're that much faster, you'll be able to rocket by in the braking zone.
09-15-2007, 08:59 AM
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As for the video of Brian and the GTC1 guys, he was doing just fine. Anytime he holds up Scotto for me he's doing a great job.
As for the "no pussies" sticker, yes it has become the de facto logo of a bunch of us from NJ. I have to tell my kids it means "no scaredy cats", though.
The video camera is a Sony HDV camera. I'm going to try a new-fangled Panasonic AVCHD next season.
09-15-2007, 09:36 AM
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Perhaps certain drivers can be surreptitiously awarded this keychain.
http://www.bmfwallets.com/pussywagon.htm
http://www.bmfwallets.com/pussywagon.htm
09-15-2007, 09:41 AM
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I still think a mysterious suction cup mounted blue flag that shows up on the rear glass before they go back out would be appropriate to rolling chicanes. If you get 3 of these, then you move down a group quietly.
09-15-2007, 09:45 AM
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BTW, I love your windshield decal. I've seen you at the track but we've never been in the same run group (obviously). I'd give a lot to see the look on the face of the turbo pilots as you catch them in the corners.
09-15-2007, 11:15 AM
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