Notices
Racing & Drivers Education Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

The 996 is a poor track car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-05-2007, 08:51 PM
  #1  
J-RAD
Racer
Thread Starter
 
J-RAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Minnesota, USA
Posts: 315
Received 16 Likes on 10 Posts
Default The 996 is a poor track car

This is due to it's design (ie. primarily the lack of a true dry sump system) that allows oil starvation to occur (inevitably leading to engine failure). Adding R compound or greater tires only compounds this issue as the g-forces are increased through turns. As such, the 996 was never intended for track use and is not a good choice, even for DEs.

Thoughts?
Old 09-05-2007, 08:55 PM
  #2  
fuenfer
Burning Brakes
 
fuenfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Darien, CT
Posts: 766
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Uhm, would that make my 997S (also without a true dry sump system) a bad track car as well?
Old 09-05-2007, 08:56 PM
  #3  
MUSSBERGER
uninformed gas bag
(contemplating on whether gas bag is one or two words)
Rennlist Member
 
MUSSBERGER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne Beach
Posts: 20,514
Received 171 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

I'll make sure to remind them as they go by me
Old 09-05-2007, 08:57 PM
  #4  
schvetkaaks
Pro
 
schvetkaaks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Dana Point, CA
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Doesn't the Boxster have more of a pseudo dry sump system than the 996 and 997?
Old 09-05-2007, 08:58 PM
  #5  
Crazy Canuck
Race Director
 
Crazy Canuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 11,188
Received 222 Likes on 111 Posts
Default

Old 09-05-2007, 09:11 PM
  #6  
RSRRacer
Rennlist Member
 
RSRRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NC
Posts: 1,944
Received 182 Likes on 96 Posts
Default

You are right, a 996 street car is not intended for track use.

Hence the cup car.
Old 09-05-2007, 09:11 PM
  #7  
MUSSBERGER
uninformed gas bag
(contemplating on whether gas bag is one or two words)
Rennlist Member
 
MUSSBERGER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne Beach
Posts: 20,514
Received 171 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

J-RAD How could I be so stupid.

Yes'you would never want to track a 996. You have to have at the least a GT3.

Is that too much? Think she will bite?
Old 09-05-2007, 09:21 PM
  #8  
Sean F
NASA Racer
Rennlist Member
 
Sean F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 4,778
Received 34 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Please discard all 996's - they are junk. I will help everyone out by buying their grocery getter for $5,000 a piece. I will also arrange trades for well equipped Neons.
Old 09-05-2007, 09:29 PM
  #9  
paradisenb
Rennlist Member
 
paradisenb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In the pasture.
Posts: 4,202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The 996 street car was designed primarily for street use. The early models had more issues with oil pick up on the track than the later ones. The oil pan can be baffled to provide greater oil quantity at the pickup. IIRC the later models have this from the factory. Many 996s are successfully tracked and raced. Very nice chasis. New crate motor from Porsche installed for under 10k. Not too bad.
Old 09-05-2007, 09:31 PM
  #10  
paradisenb
Rennlist Member
 
paradisenb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In the pasture.
Posts: 4,202
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ya see. This is the true RL spirit. A friend indeed.
Old 09-05-2007, 09:37 PM
  #11  
renntech
Advanced
 
renntech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have one one the first 996's in Canada ( if not the first) It is a non sunroof coupe. extremely rare. It Now currently has 179800 kms on it and is a dry as a bone and has never been apart. It was owned by a DE instructor so most of the kms are track. I am also a new DE instructor and i have tracked it now for 3 years with R-compounds,suspension set up, seats, rollbar etc... It is a fantastic track car if you take care of it!
I would just like a little more power now!
Old 09-05-2007, 09:37 PM
  #12  
DHinkle
Rennlist Member
 
DHinkle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: TN
Posts: 765
Received 108 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

996's properly developed make great C stock racers. Check the club racing results. Karl Poeltl is moving from F to C in a 996 and will be hard to beat. Greg Pickrael, Carl Tallardy and Tim Sanderson are all quick with their 996's. Chris Dooley and James Brickey were terrors at Daytona with the X51 engine. X51 996's were moved to B this year but some adjustment will be made to the stock classes for 2008. The X51's cannot run with the GT3's. Call Karl for further info on 996's for Club Racing (www.racersedge-inc.com).
Old 09-05-2007, 11:21 PM
  #13  
JimB
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
JimB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MN
Posts: 2,569
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I DEed my 996 for 3 years and then club raced it for 4 before switching to a cup car. The first couple of years with a 3.4l and the last two with a 3.6L X51. In 30+ race weekends I never missed a session because of an engine problem. The car is very easy to set up to go fast and is very reliable.

BTW, my 996 still holds track records at Daytona, Road America and Mid-America in a class that included 993TT, MK1 GT3s and 993RSCSs.
Jim
The following users liked this post:
Luftundwasser (09-08-2023)
Old 09-05-2007, 11:34 PM
  #14  
Gator_86_951
Spell Checker
Rennlist Member
 
Gator_86_951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 21,357
Received 393 Likes on 296 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MUSSBERGER
I'll make sure to remind them as they go by me
LOLZ
Old 09-05-2007, 11:46 PM
  #15  
Patrick
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member - times 3
 
Patrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Southeast Michigan
Posts: 9,964
Received 230 Likes on 140 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J-RAD
This is due to it's design (ie. primarily the lack of a true dry sump system) that allows oil starvation to occur (inevitably leading to engine failure). Adding R compound or greater tires only compounds this issue as the g-forces are increased through turns. As such, the 996 was never intended for track use and is not a good choice, even for DEs.

Thoughts?
You might be waydeki?


Quick Reply: The 996 is a poor track car



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:30 AM.