The 996 is a poor track car
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J-Rad, I did not run a 996, I had a GT3, and the suspensions in the late model cars are so much more sophisticated than the earlier cars. They really do handle better. We have many 996s in our club that run, besides the ones I know of that are club raced, and the incidence of motor failure does not seem to be significantly higher than with the air-cooled cars. Plus, if I grenaded one, I'd much rather spend $8K for a new crate motor than $10~12K on a rebuild. I would run the extended sump from Brey-Krause though.
Bose_man, the classing of the C2s and RSAs are done strictly by weight and options. C2s and RSAs with A/C run in E at 3181 and the RSAs or C2s sans A/C run in D at 2910. Cost-wise it does not make any sense to chop up a perfectly good RSA if you can run a C2 in the same class. However, the built up RSAs that are out there do command a premium price.
Bose_man, the classing of the C2s and RSAs are done strictly by weight and options. C2s and RSAs with A/C run in E at 3181 and the RSAs or C2s sans A/C run in D at 2910. Cost-wise it does not make any sense to chop up a perfectly good RSA if you can run a C2 in the same class. However, the built up RSAs that are out there do command a premium price.
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also they're cheaper if u happen to stuff one into the wall
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This is a very good point to bring up e-gas vs. non e-gas. When I was looking at Boxsters that is one debate I had.
Anyone feel that the e-gas gets in the way on the track.
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I have DE'd my 986 for 6 year now (5 years on R-Compounds) and I have not had any starvation problems. Additionally, I have seen a ton of these cars on track (DE's, Club Racing, Grand Am Cup) with no apparent problems.
I don't see any reason not to "track" these cars.
I don't see any reason not to "track" these cars.
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My previous car was tracked heavily by the previous owner. This included the 1 lap and was a perfect runner when I had it. While I do think the 99's had issues, the 996 can be a brilliant car on the track.
I personally like the earlier 996's (99 specifically) as they are more direct and lighter than the Mk II. I'm currently looking for a replacement 99 for my lost one. By the way I didn't loose the car due to engine failure, a kid broadsided me and totaled the car.
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on my '99, the brakes are reaching the end of their life and on a long straight i pump (prime?) the brakes with my left foot before going into the braking zone. it really helps to settle the pads. i take it this is something you couldn't do with e-gas
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The 996's make excellent track cars and are an awesome value. Any shop that tells you otherwise either has an agenda or doesn't know what they are talking about.
Its as simple as that.
Its as simple as that.
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No you can still pump the brakes. The computer gives you something like 2 seconds on the brakes before it cuts the power.
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This is good info. Thanks!
Seems that ~$230 for this may be money well spent for some additional insurance. Has anyone else here taken this approach? Pros/cons? The concept makes sense but does it work? It may be something I do for my Boxster as well.
Other options out there?
Seems that ~$230 for this may be money well spent for some additional insurance. Has anyone else here taken this approach? Pros/cons? The concept makes sense but does it work? It may be something I do for my Boxster as well.
Other options out there?
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I DEed my 996 for 3 years and then club raced it for 4 before switching to a cup car. The first couple of years with a 3.4l and the last two with a 3.6L X51. In 30+ race weekends I never missed a session because of an engine problem. The car is very easy to set up to go fast and is very reliable.
BTW, my 996 still holds track records at Daytona, Road America and Mid-America in a class that included 993TT, MK1 GT3s and 993RSCSs.
Jim
BTW, my 996 still holds track records at Daytona, Road America and Mid-America in a class that included 993TT, MK1 GT3s and 993RSCSs.
Jim
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BMW E36 M3's are also known to suffer wet sump oil starvation problems on hard cornering G's in stock form, but there are upgrades and workarounds to solve the problem. People track them with a good deal of success and they are very competitive.
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also check out the mantis sump extension; its design is different from the BK version. instead of a different pan w/ internal baffle, they use a sump extension w/ windage tray. you can see it here: http://www.mantissport.ca/