Truly sad news
08-22-2007 | 10:57 AM
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Funeral Services Friday
Very sorry to hear of this tragedy. My deepest condolences to the friends and family of John.
Viewing hours will be from 3:00 to 8:00 on Thursday
Funeral Service will be at 11:00 on Friday (at Walkers)
Walker Funeral Home - more info »
248 E South St, Winchester, IN
(765) 584-3231
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Viewing hours will be from 3:00 to 8:00 on Thursday
Funeral Service will be at 11:00 on Friday (at Walkers)
Walker Funeral Home - more info »
248 E South St, Winchester, IN
(765) 584-3231
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=s...num=1&ct=image
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08-22-2007 | 11:43 AM
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Im still saddened by all this and my thoughts are with everyone involved.
There was mention of a memorial fund for John, does anyone have anymore information on that?
08-22-2007 | 12:27 PM
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08-22-2007 | 12:55 PM
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Thank goodness for that. Losing any one person is bad enough. If you have a phone number or email address for Larry I'd sure like to drop him a get well note.
08-22-2007 | 04:29 PM
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I am working with a small cage builder just east of Indy who built my original cage. I will check with him to see if he would like his name out there. This guy builds cup car cages and does a lot of drag cage work. I have a single door bar and after seeing the M3 (it also has dual door bars) I would like more protection. Also the diagonals from the main hoop to the back corners of Larry's car help protect the fuel tank.
Richard, i agree that really watching for the flaggers is critical. Because I saw the slippery flag i was able to quickly avoid the oil and get to the right of the track.
Mike
Richard, i agree that really watching for the flaggers is critical. Because I saw the slippery flag i was able to quickly avoid the oil and get to the right of the track.
Mike
Shame this happened, Godspeed to John.
08-22-2007 | 04:36 PM
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From: in a racecar somewhere...
Racers in Ohio may want to talk with Mark McMahan...He does many of the cages in the Rolex cars...website is www.rollcageguy.com
08-23-2007 | 01:47 PM
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I was there,I was on the track in the same race. Larry Collins car was stalled at the end of the back strait,left side for two laps. The starter flag station had a debis flag NO YELLOW . John hit the oil went into a violent spin and hit Larry's car at 100mph ? Lary was ok but shaken,I picked him up behind the Mid Ohio garage were he was left alone with his car (I was stunned). We heard John has a broken leg.
Five of my family members where there at the hill above maddness and said the accident was horrific.
Larry was the last person I shook hands with before we got into our cars and gridded for the race. We were in adjoining garages.
I will say a prayer for John and his family. I did not work alot today just thinking about the wreck and this was when I thought his leg was broken.
It took over a hour to remove him from the car...
Five of my family members where there at the hill above maddness and said the accident was horrific.
Larry was the last person I shook hands with before we got into our cars and gridded for the race. We were in adjoining garages.
I will say a prayer for John and his family. I did not work alot today just thinking about the wreck and this was when I thought his leg was broken.
It took over a hour to remove him from the car...
Thanks and be safe,
Paul Hamm
08-23-2007 | 01:48 PM
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Do to all the miss information about this on the web, I have the ok to post this from the people who mattered most.
Description of events-
Larry Collins driving a 944 lost his motor at the kink or about half way down the back straight. Larry went to drivers left as his car was filling with smoke and with limited visibility he felt that there where faster cars on the inside passing him. He went into the wet grass and slowed to a stop beyond the end of the straight. The 944 was in or next to china beach to the far left.
As John Engle in his M3 made his way around the track the starters flag station on the back straight was showing the debris flag, and the next station at the end of the straight was showing a yellow flag. The station at the top of the hill was clear.
John was around 10 sec. in front of the 944 when the engine let go, so it was around a 1:20 later he was making his way down the back straight. As John entered the area he went thought the oil and started to spin. The two cars came together 1:34 sec after the 944 came to a stop, right corner of the 944 to the left A pillar and door area of the M3. The cage on the M3 was pushed in enough that it had trapped John’s legs so that when he tried to get out he could not. The cage was cut away and John could move his feet as he was on his way to the hospital.
At the hospital it was discovered that John was bleeding internally some where in the upper chest cavity from the rate of deceleration at impact.
Larry hurt a muscle in his leg along and has a sore neck but will be fine.
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Description of events-
Larry Collins driving a 944 lost his motor at the kink or about half way down the back straight. Larry went to drivers left as his car was filling with smoke and with limited visibility he felt that there where faster cars on the inside passing him. He went into the wet grass and slowed to a stop beyond the end of the straight. The 944 was in or next to china beach to the far left.
As John Engle in his M3 made his way around the track the starters flag station on the back straight was showing the debris flag, and the next station at the end of the straight was showing a yellow flag. The station at the top of the hill was clear.
John was around 10 sec. in front of the 944 when the engine let go, so it was around a 1:20 later he was making his way down the back straight. As John entered the area he went thought the oil and started to spin. The two cars came together 1:34 sec after the 944 came to a stop, right corner of the 944 to the left A pillar and door area of the M3. The cage on the M3 was pushed in enough that it had trapped John’s legs so that when he tried to get out he could not. The cage was cut away and John could move his feet as he was on his way to the hospital.
At the hospital it was discovered that John was bleeding internally some where in the upper chest cavity from the rate of deceleration at impact.
Larry hurt a muscle in his leg along and has a sore neck but will be fine.
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If you feel the need to discuss details please due so privately (PM's, Email, Phone) and as we keep this to well wishes for the family. Thanks to all of you.
08-23-2007 | 04:25 PM
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I apologize to all fellow rennlisters for any misinformaton I may have posted. I have the deepest sympathy for Johns family. My view was from that of a car in a race at the same time this occured an that of what my family saw siiting on the hill watching the actual race.
