Race tracks in Dallas Area?
09-15-2006, 12:13 AM
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Hmmm, OK. I learn something new every day.
Is "kinematic" a version of "camel"?
Is "kinematic" a version of "camel"?
09-15-2006, 10:36 AM
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Yes, yes it is. It's a hairless two hump variant that live near the ocean. Very high maintenance from what I understand. Not very loyal either.
Porsche also used the name for the caster control arm of the rear suspension of the 993's. As I understand it, it's function is to control the rear toe throughout the suspension travel. When set properly, the loaded rear toe's in a little to help steer into the turn. It set wrong and it toe's out and makes the rear end steer away from the turn. It's basically Porsche's feeble attempt at 4 wheel steering. They only used it in the 993's and abandoned it afterwards.
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Porsche also used the name for the caster control arm of the rear suspension of the 993's. As I understand it, it's function is to control the rear toe throughout the suspension travel. When set properly, the loaded rear toe's in a little to help steer into the turn. It set wrong and it toe's out and makes the rear end steer away from the turn. It's basically Porsche's feeble attempt at 4 wheel steering. They only used it in the 993's and abandoned it afterwards.
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09-15-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JW in Texas
The stiffer the better or @ least that's what she said 
I had 1500+ on the back of the RSA & mid 1300s up front. George has about 300 Lbs. more weight to carry so he needs a little more. I loved my set-up! 
I had 1500+ on the back of the RSA & mid 1300s up front. George has about 300 Lbs. more weight to carry so he needs a little more. I loved my set-up! I could never find out the spring rates on the 993 Cup, but I heard that they were in the neighborhood of 1500# - 1800#. On a 2500# car with 315hp...that was a fun car to drive.
09-15-2006, 11:56 AM
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Kevin,
That's about right. Our 996 cups are very similar as well. I told Chris C. that was the feel I was after in the RSA. All three cars had basically the same spec springs when I was finished. Love that go kart feel
That's about right. Our 996 cups are very similar as well. I told Chris C. that was the feel I was after in the RSA. All three cars had basically the same spec springs when I was finished. Love that go kart feel
09-15-2006, 12:02 PM
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Kevin, that car was a blast to drive. Thanks for opportunity. That's why I wanted stiffer, much stiffer. Even though my car is nowhere close to the cup cars, it does feel pretty damn tight.
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09-15-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JW in Texas
Kevin,
That's about right. Our 996 cups are very similar as well. I told Chris C. that was the feel I was after in the RSA. All three cars had basically the same spec springs when I was finished. Love that go kart feel
That's about right. Our 996 cups are very similar as well. I told Chris C. that was the feel I was after in the RSA. All three cars had basically the same spec springs when I was finished. Love that go kart feel
Do you think the cars drive the same? I've yet to really spin (not including two wheel off-track induced) the 996 Cup yet, kinda a simple car to drive, just stay on the gas. I spun the 993 Cup coming out of Ricochet and twice in Big Bend at MSR. That car could be a beast with no power steering, 993 suspension, and what felt to me much stiffer springs vs. the 996 Cup. Also, the air-cooled Cup engine was really, really loud.
09-15-2006, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by George A
Kevin, that car was a blast to drive. Thanks for opportunity. That's why I wanted stiffer, much stiffer. Even though my car is nowhere close to the cup cars, it does feel pretty damn tight.
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09-15-2006, 03:26 PM
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I think the fronts are 1300 on the 6, rears are higher, close to 1500 I think. The 6s feel a little softer since they weigh more then the 3s. I think we are about 200 Lbs. heavier now. Also, that "interesting" 993 suspension G is talking about comes into play on the 3s. The RSA was a blast to drive w/the stiff stuff & I was right at the 2760 mark on weight in that car. No kinematic toe just old school trailing arms. Also helps that it was completely steel, solid mounts/suspension front to back. Very fun car!
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09-15-2006, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kev
No prob, it was worth seeing you spin for once.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! He shoots...he scores!!
George is actually an excellent driver.
I am still amazed that you guys can drive those 993's with 1700 pound springs. Ugh.
09-15-2006, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JW in Texas
The RSA was a blast to drive w/the stiff stuff & I was right at the 2760 mark on weight in that car. No kinematic toe just old school trailing arms. Also helps that it was completely steel, solid mounts/suspension front to back. Very fun car!
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