PCA and lap records
06-07-2010, 10:12 AM
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To chime in on the practice vs. qualifying vs. race track records I think they should count all the same. I love that Rennpoints is now breaking down for each category but for a PCA track record I think it should be the fastest time, period. I race in a stock class and get lumped into the fast race groups quite often, undoubtedly there will be that guy in a GT car who pulls you by 6 car lengths down the straight but ends up parking it in the every corner so it’s impossible to get a shot at anything resembling a clean lap. Certainly you would be handicapping everyone who races and isn’t lucky enough to have their class of car in the front of the race group.
06-07-2010, 10:23 AM
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FWIW, what I've seen is that whenever a record is broken or someone in a class posts a much faster lap than everyone else, gets called into tech/scales. At least that has been my experience 100% of the times
06-07-2010, 10:27 AM
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06-07-2010, 10:28 AM
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I am with the Race Lap crowd here. What you do in qualifying is not held to the scrutiny of the rules of your class so how could that lap count as any form of record.
Am I missing something? Hasn't the Lap Record for any form of motorsports always been during a race lap?
Am I missing something? Hasn't the Lap Record for any form of motorsports always been during a race lap?
06-07-2010, 10:52 AM
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Lap records, in most forms of Motorsports, include quali. Then again the cars are also scrutinized afterwards to ensure compliance with the rules. Heck some even include practice sessions (I believe Indianapolis does this).
The only reason I don't like the, quali is rehearsal analogy is that, it's (quali) part of the actual performance. It's more like act one. Perform bad and your act two (race) may not go so well. The two are linked and therefore it's not just rehearsal.
An open practice session, that's rehearsal.
Also most forms of Motorsports have the designation of Fastest Lap for the quickest race lap. A lap record could be a fastest lap but not all fastest laps are lap records.
The only reason I don't like the, quali is rehearsal analogy is that, it's (quali) part of the actual performance. It's more like act one. Perform bad and your act two (race) may not go so well. The two are linked and therefore it's not just rehearsal.
An open practice session, that's rehearsal.
Also most forms of Motorsports have the designation of Fastest Lap for the quickest race lap. A lap record could be a fastest lap but not all fastest laps are lap records.
06-07-2010, 12:25 PM
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06-07-2010, 12:27 PM
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06-07-2010, 03:33 PM
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Qualifying I could be convinced of being worthy for consideration. But I still like race as the only thing.
06-07-2010, 07:56 PM
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Odd to hear. I know people who run random stuff in some practices just to 'test' things out of curiosity, that's why using practice times for anything is a bit of a waste IMO.
Qualifying I could be convinced of being worthy for consideration. But I still like race as the only thing.
Qualifying I could be convinced of being worthy for consideration. But I still like race as the only thing.
06-07-2010, 07:58 PM
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Particularly in a series such as PCA where each practice is really qualifying for the next session. It isn't really "practice 1" as much as qualifying for qualifying for qualifying for qualifying...