Hawk blues or Padgid orange?
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Hawk blues or Padgid orange?
I love the way Hawk blues stop but they eat rotors! I probably lay on the brakes too much while slowing (or so I'm told) but I'd love to hear some experience about other brands that stop well without chewing rotors to bits after a few events!
944 I-class, weight =2779 w/o driver, about 3000 lbs with driver & gas.
944 I-class, weight =2779 w/o driver, about 3000 lbs with driver & gas.
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I've had few people tell me to use pagid blacks, over hawk blues. ...quick check and they cost 2x as much. That's too much more. Also, had someone recommend HT10's, they're about 20% higher than blues. May try them based on comment above... Have not really ever heard much good about pagid oranges -- too much mat'l xfer on rotor.
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I've run Blues for only one three day event (VIR), but I see no rotor wear at all. I got none from my previous Blacks either. Blues usually eat rotors in STREET use where you are not braking hard and getting the compound up to temp. Your wear problems do not fit the pattern.
After Hawks, I don't think you will be happy with Porterfield Enduros. They work very well, but they are not a high friction pad. I used to use the enduros, and they worked very well, but I have moved on to higher friction fare. The Race compound work well, but they dissappear a little fast for my budget.
I've run Blues for only one three day event (VIR), but I see no rotor wear at all. I got none from my previous Blacks either. Blues usually eat rotors in STREET use where you are not braking hard and getting the compound up to temp. Your wear problems do not fit the pattern.
After Hawks, I don't think you will be happy with Porterfield Enduros. They work very well, but they are not a high friction pad. I used to use the enduros, and they worked very well, but I have moved on to higher friction fare. The Race compound work well, but they dissappear a little fast for my budget.
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I have not had and problems with Hawk blues eating stock rotors. Remember stock rotors are what $40 or so? I still go through 2-3 pads with one set of rotors and I know the pads cost more than rotors.
That is on a 2615lbs as raced 944 using hawk blues.
That is on a 2615lbs as raced 944 using hawk blues.
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Originally Posted by Bull
The Hawk HT-10s are more rotor friendly.
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I have not had the rotor wear in blues, I was just looking at going to bigger rotors due to current ones getting hot (paint indicates ~1,200F) and very slight brake fade. ...the recommendation going to pagid blacks was recommended as improvement over blues.
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For what it's worth, I use cross drilled rotors and cryo them, I've experienced no improvement with rotor wear, But I love the way Hawk blues progressively slow the car with steady foot pressure on the pedal!!! last rotors have severe cracks at all the cross drilled holes and with exception to ft rotors and blue pads, system is stock.
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For what it's worth, I use cross drilled rotors and cryo them, I've experienced no improvement with rotor wear, But I love the way Hawk blues progressively slow the car with steady foot pressure on the pedal!!! last rotors have severe cracks at all the cross drilled holes and with exception to ft rotors and blue pads, system is stock.
John's points above are well taken but I was just reading into Your braking style that the grabbier pads may be a bit less desirable with Your style. Let us know Your end results and how they worked out.
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For what it's worth, I use cross drilled rotors and cryo them, I've experienced no improvement with rotor wear, But I love the way Hawk blues progressively slow the car with steady foot pressure on the pedal!!! last rotors have severe cracks at all the cross drilled holes and with exception to ft rotors and blue pads, system is stock.
Do you street-drive your car.... the Hawk Blues will really eat rotors when they are cold.... in racing conditions fully hot, my rotors last at least 2-3 sets of pads
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Last I checked (more than a couple years ago), the Pagids were not available for the 944n/a and S single piston calipers.
I used the Cool Carbons and Porterfields, then ran the old Hawk Blacks (not the same as the current Hawk blacks) and really liked them on my 944S. The Blues are not quite as aggressive as the old blacks. The new more aggressive Hawk compounds (I think they go up from the HT10, 12, to 14 ?) are more likely similar to the old Blacks, but as mentioned, they get more expensive.
I used the Cool Carbons and Porterfields, then ran the old Hawk Blacks (not the same as the current Hawk blacks) and really liked them on my 944S. The Blues are not quite as aggressive as the old blacks. The new more aggressive Hawk compounds (I think they go up from the HT10, 12, to 14 ?) are more likely similar to the old Blacks, but as mentioned, they get more expensive.
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PFC 90 or PFC 97 compound pads are great! Solid pedal, great initial bite and good release characteristics. Noisy at partial pressures, dusty but pretty easy on rotors. Great stuff!!
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Originally Posted by Tom Larkins
Are you running big reds on your C2, I might try those myself........