forklift

This sucks: http://privat.hihm.no/morten/video/944.mpeg

taken from this thread: http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=403978

Apparently not too much info. on it.

A different video of a Civic going off in the wet. I can't figure this one out. Must have hit some oil?

http://www.impreza.nu/ssi2/expo/alb...t/TraffAMCO.mpg

That link may not work so here is the original thread:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=127304

joseph mitro

we discussed this ad nauseum in the 944 forums. it looks like a horrific crash and of course there were lots of "those 911 drivers" comments. personally i think it looks like a driving mistake but there is not enough details on the video to tell for sure. apparently there was talk the 944 let up just a bit in the corner, letting the 911 drift too wide into him.

forklift

Didn't see that thread, but do now: https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...1&page=1&pp=15

edit, apparently I didn't see your link either.

Curt911

The WRX crash looked worse to me, wonder if he made it ok...

Greg Fishman

How do you let someone drift into you?
This was all the 911's fault.

joseph mitro

the 911 could have been planning his line based on the 944's line, but if it changed a little due to the 944 letting off, the 911 didn't have much room for error.

again i don't think we know enough based on the video to place blame

Greg Fishman

That doesn't make sense to me. If the 944 let off the gas the 911 had more room at exit. The 911 just used more track than he had claim to. The responsibility was his to complete the pass safely and without hitting the other guy.

Jim Child

I can't see how this is anything other than a ham-fisted failure on the part of the 911 driver to safely complete a pass.

BrianKeithSmith

That WRX Crash is scary...

Darren

What do you figure happened in the WRX crash? The sound that it makes on impact is disturbingly violent, painful to watch.

RJay

100% agree. The bloke in the 911 KNEW there was a car on the outside, it was his reponsibility to tighten his line. I'd bet that if this were a race, there'd be a 13/3 issued to the 911.

DJF1

I agree with both Greg and you... words of wisdom really I WISH EVERYONE would adhere too... As for the 13/13 dont be so sure....

APKhaos

I had a really close call this weekend when a car spun in front of me heading track left, then snapped back across the track heading for my driver's door at a great rate of speed. The whole incident happened in a matter of seconds. It took some radical change of line and an off track excusion to avoid having a very nice car wedged into my door and the both of us off into the trees. Most all of this was instinctive - there was no time to think.

As an odd coincidence, I had a LHS front hub fail at the apex of that very same corner earlier in the weekend. There was a car following close at the time, and he needed to adjust quickly when I backed out of it to avoid loosing a wheel or worse.

Weekend DE driving can turn ugly at any time, and we need to be ready for it. There are some odd noises on the '44 tape that may have caused the driver to back off - the right thing to do. If that was the case, the 911 driver clearly missed it, and carnage resulted.

Z-man

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Um, er, I thought you 911 guys don't venture into the 944 forums. . .
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-Z.

38D

Looks to mee like just going too fast for the conditions. He recogized the spin pretty quick, though it does sound like he lifted, which only made things worse.

I think the the sound is all that glass breaking.