Formula 1 - 2024 Season
#1351
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I like LeClerc and think he's a good driver who will be competitive and deliver decent results. But I really do think he lacks the killer instinct and makes unforced errors when under heavy pressure. Like a QB with happy feet. Since someone mentioned him, LeClerc reminds me of Kirk Cousins. Nice QB who can put up decent numbers, but he's 1-4 in the playoffs and has zero rings.
I know, I am just a club racer but that's how I see it.
I know, I am just a club racer but that's how I see it.
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Sure can relate to that- went to first Indy F1 race in 2000. First day sitting across from the pits and telling my friend with me (we raced together for years in karts and spec Miata) we weren't wearing any damned ear plugs- first practice session Schumie was the only one who went by on the straight and didn't do an installation lap and go back in the pits. ONE car went by and we had ear plugs the rest of the weekend. I too miss those days...
My buddy and I would always sit in the grandstands exiting Turn #10, the 180 at the end of the long straight at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
Think it was Grandstand #25 pictured on the right in the photo below.
You could watch the cars hit the brakes and the brake discs glow bright orange under braking as the drivers slowed from 185 mph down to 35 mph in order to make the turn.
Then, they would rocket back up the track. During one practice session, Jean Alesi aborted his lap and found the gravel trap in this tight turn. The "gravel" was essentially large river rock.
Since his lap and session was done, he decided to keep the engine running and made his way back onto the track surface where he conducted the most glorious burn-out I'd ever seen!
Dude lit those tires up and kept the engine screaming and the crowd went absolutely BONKERS!
About a minute later, one of the other racers came by and gave him a lift on the side-pod back to the pits.
These engines popped, crackled, and just plain shrieked in the most primal way. Really miss them. The turbo engines don't even come close.
Just amazing stuff!
Gilles Villeneuve Circuit: F1 Track Map Layout & Lap Record (f1-fansite.com)
Last edited by Diablo Dude; 04-28-2024 at 02:01 PM.
#1353
My first F1 race was also at Indianapolis just a few days after 9/11 in 2001. The sound was something I wasn't prepared for both in terms of how awesome it was and the fact the best TV Surround Sound system could never capture the essence of it. I was hooked and went to Indy another 3 times and Montreal once during the V10 era. Like you, after the first lap, I turned to my more seasoned F1 buddies who went with me to Indy and asked what in God's name was that thunder.... it was the downshifts pre-double clutch days. The sound from those gearboxes downshifting literally sounded like thunder in the sky. We couldn't believe how these gearboxes managed to stay intact with that kind of rumble!
Mix in the sound of 22 F1 cars at 18,000-20,000 rounding the final corner going onto the main straight against the metal bleachers at Indy, and their presence was felt in your chest. What a glorious experience we will never forget!
Mix in the sound of 22 F1 cars at 18,000-20,000 rounding the final corner going onto the main straight against the metal bleachers at Indy, and their presence was felt in your chest. What a glorious experience we will never forget!
Agree with all on the sound of the V10s. We went to Indy for the first F1 race there and were walking to the circuit when the cars started practice. The sound literally made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up! Oh, and like an idiot I didn’t wear earplugs; probably lost a significant amount of my high frequency hearing that weekend! lol
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Btw: if you can, catch at least the last 5 laps of the MotoGP Spanish GP. It is everything that is missing in today’s F1, unfortunately!
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Age/loss of focus/too many distractions - fashion, music, celebs... Russell wouldn't be beating him if he still had the same level of intensity he had early in his career. Not criticizing, just stating facts.
Compare to Verstappen, whose downtime is spent sim racing.
Compare to Verstappen, whose downtime is spent sim racing.
#1357
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I would say age but the rest is hogwash. Plenty of top athletes at the complete pinnacle of their careers balance all that extra stuff and do plenty of things outside their profession. To say because HAM is into fashion blah blah blah and that is reason, not a chance. Also remember 80-90% is the car (facts from F1 gurus). His cars over that last couple of years have not been WDC worthy so I would say the 2 reasons are mostly the car and a little of age. Although ALO is actually defying that argument as well so I would say the car. That is the reason.
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Gotta go with the frustration of an uncompetitive car, along with too many other-than-racing pursuits. I can't think of very many other high level athletes with that much distraction.
Let's see how well Travis Kelce focuses on football next year...
Let's see how well Travis Kelce focuses on football next year...
#1359
That's the dumbest take I've heard, such a bad comparison. Dude won the super bowl with no drop in focus.
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I would say age but the rest is hogwash. Plenty of top athletes at the complete pinnacle of their careers balance all that extra stuff and do plenty of things outside their profession. To say because HAM is into fashion blah blah blah and that is reason, not a chance. Also remember 80-90% is the car (facts from F1 gurus). His cars over that last couple of years have not been WDC worthy so I would say the 2 reasons are mostly the car and a little of age. Although ALO is actually defying that argument as well so I would say the car. That is the reason.
It’s common knowledge that if HAM doesn’t have the fastest car, he gives up. He wants to retire the car, he makes excuses and “says” he’s experimenting with set ups.
I would never put HaM in the same category as Alonso or VER for several reasons but primarily due to the latter’s commitment, work ethic and ferociousness to extract the most out of the package they have been given. The term I would use to describe HAM is “front runner”.
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#1361
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Typically those top athletes do it in the off season. HAM is flying all over the world between races. HAM has had the dual advantage of being a very pgifted natural driver who has put very little work into his craft as well as having a car so fast he could turn down the engine after lap #3. The moment he was actually challenged by a fast driver in a car close, but not on par with the Merc, he finally went into the SIM room (2021).
It’s common knowledge that if HAM doesn’t have the fastest car, he gives up. He wants to retire the car, he makes excuses and “says” he’s experimenting with set ups.
I would never put HaM in the same category as Alonso or VER for several reasons but primarily due to the latter’s commitment, work ethic and ferociousness to extract the most out of the package they have been given. The term I would use to describe HAM is “front runner”.
It’s common knowledge that if HAM doesn’t have the fastest car, he gives up. He wants to retire the car, he makes excuses and “says” he’s experimenting with set ups.
I would never put HaM in the same category as Alonso or VER for several reasons but primarily due to the latter’s commitment, work ethic and ferociousness to extract the most out of the package they have been given. The term I would use to describe HAM is “front runner”.
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#1362
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During his world championship runs he was often beset with mechanical issues that he was challenged with and had to overcome.
He didn't give up. In fact, he dealt with the hand he was given (tires, poor pitstop strategy, etc.), overcame these issues and won.
Anyone actually watching his races would be aware of this. Toto Wolf certainly was and he doesn't "sugar-coat" anything.
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Yes, earplugs were mandatory!
My buddy and I would always sit in the grandstands exiting Turn #10, the 180 at the end of the long straight at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
Think it was Grandstand #25 pictured on the right in the photo below.
You could watch the cars hit the brakes and the brake discs glow bright orange under braking as the drivers slowed from 185 mph down to 35 mph in order to make the turn.
Then, they would rocket back up the track. During one practice session, Jean Alesi aborted his lap and found the gravel trap in this tight turn. The "gravel" was essentially large river rock.
Since his lap and session was done, he decided to keep the engine running and made his way back onto the track surface where he conducted the most glorious burn-out I'd ever seen!
Dude lit those tires up and kept the engine screaming and the crowd went absolutely BONKERS!
About a minute later, one of the other racers came by and gave him a lift on the side-pod back to the pits.
These engines popped, crackled, and just plain shrieked in the most primal way. Really miss them. The turbo engines don't even come close.
Just amazing stuff!
Gilles Villeneuve Circuit: F1 Track Map Layout & Lap Record (f1-fansite.com)
My buddy and I would always sit in the grandstands exiting Turn #10, the 180 at the end of the long straight at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.
Think it was Grandstand #25 pictured on the right in the photo below.
You could watch the cars hit the brakes and the brake discs glow bright orange under braking as the drivers slowed from 185 mph down to 35 mph in order to make the turn.
Then, they would rocket back up the track. During one practice session, Jean Alesi aborted his lap and found the gravel trap in this tight turn. The "gravel" was essentially large river rock.
Since his lap and session was done, he decided to keep the engine running and made his way back onto the track surface where he conducted the most glorious burn-out I'd ever seen!
Dude lit those tires up and kept the engine screaming and the crowd went absolutely BONKERS!
About a minute later, one of the other racers came by and gave him a lift on the side-pod back to the pits.
These engines popped, crackled, and just plain shrieked in the most primal way. Really miss them. The turbo engines don't even come close.
Just amazing stuff!
Gilles Villeneuve Circuit: F1 Track Map Layout & Lap Record (f1-fansite.com)
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Huh?
During his world championship runs he was often beset with mechanical issues that he was challenged with and had to overcome.
He didn't give up. In fact, he dealt with the hand he was given (tires, poor pitstop strategy, etc.), overcame these issues and won.
Anyone actually watching his races would be aware of this. Toto Wolf certainly was and he doesn't "sugar-coat" anything.
During his world championship runs he was often beset with mechanical issues that he was challenged with and had to overcome.
He didn't give up. In fact, he dealt with the hand he was given (tires, poor pitstop strategy, etc.), overcame these issues and won.
Anyone actually watching his races would be aware of this. Toto Wolf certainly was and he doesn't "sugar-coat" anything.
https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/2...-radio-message
https://www.racefans.net/2019/07/29/...-taking-ninth/
https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-...o-retire-spain
https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1...avio-briatore/
“He is one of those drivers who doesn't put much effort into it if the car isn't good,” the Italian told RAI. Schumacher agrees with that sentiment, saying: “Hamilton has to feel like he can win to be able to drive fast.”Mar 15, 2024
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