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Old 04-26-2024, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Folks forget that the motivating factor for LH, one of the world's highest grossing athletes, is not money but attention and marketing of causes he believes in. I think Newey is the same.

Ferrari has a marketing machine. I bought RACE at $80. They're no dummies...
LOL Peter, are you applying for Italian citizenship through the elective visa program (often called the Golden Visa in other EU countries such as Malta, Spain or Portugal)? One of the requirements is to invest a mid 6 figure income in an Italian based company and your comments lately have been heavily backing the Scuderia, church bells in Maranello and the like... What are your thoughts on having a cappuccino after 11 a.m.? LOL
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Old 04-26-2024, 05:28 PM
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All F1 drivers get into a crashes now and then.

Hulkenberg has been a little better than most in the mid-field at avoiding them and he scores points in a dog of a car. He replaced Mick Schumacher, I think Haas are very happy with that move.
Old 04-26-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by multi21
LOL Peter, are you applying for Italian citizenship through the elective visa program (often called the Golden Visa in other EU countries such as Malta, Spain or Portugal)? One of the requirements is to invest a mid 6 figure income in an Italian based company and your comments lately have been heavily backing the Scuderia, church bells in Maranello and the like... What are your thoughts on having a cappuccino after 11 a.m.? LOL


I'm a long time devotee. My first track event was two days driving a 250 GT/Lusso at Roebling Road in 1984. Never been the same since.

Here's a 500 Mondial I drove through the factory gates in 1988.


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Old 04-26-2024, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
It makes sense for Newey to go to Ferrari because it makes sense as a business plan.

Ferrari acquires Hamilton.
Ferrari acquires Newey.
Newey builds a car which lets Hamilton obtain his 8th WDC, beating Schumacher.
Hamilton and Newey retire from F1 and are paid tons by the Ferrari marketing machine.
Ferrari sells more cars and merch.
Good ROI for Ferrari.
The fly in your ointment is that Leclerc is faster than Hamilton, younger than Hamilton, hungrier than Hamilton, and still getting better. Hamilton's age will have his talents diminishing at an accelerated rate. The 2026 season is just too far down the road for Hamilton to win the WDC again...he will be 41 years old. Leclerc will be 28....
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Originally Posted by 9.5 Degrees
While I agree that crashing a car in today's salary cap era does pose a problem, is someone who just scores points when available, but no chance at podiums, a team's desires?

I joke, but Nico has gone through newly every team and former team on the grid:

2010 - Williams
2011-2012 - Force India
2013 - Sauber
2014-2016 - Return to Force India
2017-2019 - Renault Factory Team
2020 - Racing Point (formerly known as Force India)
2021 - Aston Martin (Formerly known as Racing Point, formerly known as Force India)
2023-2024 - HAAS
2025 - Return to Sauber/Audi

208 F1 races with no podiums and 3 years in a factory team. He did almost get his first podium in the factory Renault car, but ironically crashed it.
Factory team or not, none of these teams, none them, were front runners, none. Not even close. The cars you drive in F1 is everything.
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Originally Posted by winders
The fly in your ointment is that Leclerc is faster than Hamilton, younger than Hamilton, hungrier than Hamilton, and still getting better. Hamilton's age will have his talents diminishing at an accelerated rate. The 2026 season is just too far down the road for Hamilton to win the WDC again...he will be 41 years old. Leclerc will be 28....
And Hulkenberg will be 38.

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And Alonso will be 44.
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Old 04-26-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ProCoach


I'm a long time devotee. My first track event was two days driving a 250 GT/Lusso at Roebling Road in 1984. Never been the same since.

Here's a 500 Mondial I drove through the factory gates in 1988.

I hope you weren't driving that before the picture was taken?????
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Old 04-26-2024, 06:12 PM
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I hope you weren't driving that before the picture was taken?????
Nope, I was just there to keep the car running. Paul ran into a squall heading up the hill to San Marino. Aquaplaned into a stone wall.

I was following in a Lancia Thema 8.32 and took the car's lead knock-off hammer to the inside of the fender to get the him going again.

This was the day after at Parma, headed to Maranello. I couldn't stop crying as I drove through the gates at the factory.

The Italians cheered the car at the factory. It was amazing. We did it a few times (the Mille Miglia Storica) thirty-five years ago. Car sold for $3.2M a few years ago...

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Originally Posted by multi21
... What are your thoughts on having a cappuccino after 11 a.m.? LOL
No cappuccino after 11, belt must match shoes, cannot wear jeans without belt

The rules I live by, alora!
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
And Hulkenberg will be 38.
Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
And Alonso will be 44.
Do you guys see either of these guys winning a championship if Leclerc is the other driver on the team?

I didn't think so....
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Originally Posted by winders
Do you guys see either of these guys winning a championship if Leclerc is the other driver on the team?....
No, Leclerc might be Lewis' toughest teammate since Alonso. Lewis is still plenty quick enough to win a WDC but beating Leclerc in the same car at Ferrari two years from now will be a long shot.

Not to mention Ferrari, even with Newey, has to nail the new the regs and build the quickest car and best engine. They have not done that since Schumacher.

I am an optimist but there are a lot of variables that all have to fall in line.
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Ferrari - Hamilton most likely a disaster for Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by winders
Do you guys see either of these guys winning a championship if Leclerc is the other driver on the team?

I didn't think so....
Is that even a question?

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If been saying this for years. Unlike the old days when drivers like Schumacher insisted on driving every single test session which resulted in direct feedback to improve the car, since the abolition of in season testing and very limited pre-season testing, the drivers have very little they can contribute whereas the CAD team and engineers are more valuable to the success of the car.





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